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Spinning Slinger Ring When Motor is Off

06/13/2013 1:25 PM

We have a pair of electric condensate pumps located beneath the condensor of a 120MW turbine. One of the bearings between the motor and pump developed some strange markings on the shaft and bearing. The markings were a mirror image of each other between the shaft and the babbit. It looked like it could have been caused by electric current so we did some things to eliminate stray current.

Now we have noticed that the slinger ring is moving when the motor is off and not spinning. We only noticed the movement at 28MW (it stopped when we looked later at 65MW) but the vibrations seem about the same (to my calibrated fingers).

I now suspect that the markings have come from the shaft vibrating on the bearing when shut down. My question is twofold; first has anyone ever seen anything like this before, and second, what is it about vibration that causes a ring on a shaft to spin like that? I might open a second discussion for the cause of spin.

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Re: Spinning Slinger Ring When Motor Is Off

06/13/2013 3:17 PM

A visual representation of your shaft phenomenon.

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Re: Spinning Slinger Ring When Motor Is Off

06/13/2013 4:59 PM

If you Google (our old friend) "bearing brinelling", you will find much information on your shaft/bearing issue.

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Re: Spinning Slinger Ring When Motor is Off

06/14/2013 9:58 AM

Take some "Vibe" data on it running and shut down. You may want to slow roll it when it is not running.

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Re: Spinning Slinger Ring When Motor is Off

06/14/2013 12:32 PM

I have our vibration expert coming to look into it. Not sure how we would slow roll it and that might not help because the sleeve bearings require sufficient speed to generate the wedge of oil that the shaft rides on.

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