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Concentrating atoms/electrons on one point trough magnetic field

06/01/2007 12:02 PM

how can i hold electrons or atoms on a specific place?

i know how to make them go trough a coil or ring magnet,

but how can I make them stay on one place like in a cylinder where i want them to react with other atoms. Is there a way to concentrate them on one point?

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Re: Concentrating atoms/electrons on one point trough magnetic field

06/02/2007 10:31 AM

An electron is an electric charge it can ineract with a magnetic field ONLY if it is moving. But it can interact with an electric field even if it is at rest. So that gives you a hint.

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06/03/2007 1:18 AM

Well, yes and no... If an electron is placed in a magnetic field, its angular momentum will change according to quantum physics.

Anyway, what I have seen in the most recent work is using lasers to cool down atoms. By cooling, I mean dampening their motion. Although these articles talk about pointing the lasers here or there to stop motion, I'm assuming it's WAY more complicated than that. I imagine it's some sort of optical, computer, laser combination within an evacuated chamber. The lasers are fired (probably not very powerful ones) quickly about the cloud of atoms to heard them together. One more thing, I also imagine they use Ti-sapphire lasers because the pulses have to be exceedingly short. Ti-sapphire lasers' pulses are extremely short and the laser can be tuned to different frequencies.

Hope that helped some.

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06/03/2007 5:05 AM

I agree that the spin will interact and its axis can change as position but as far as i understood the question the problem was to concentrate thus to limit their capability to move according to the 3 space directions.

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06/03/2007 11:58 PM

Sorry. I was just picking nits.

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06/04/2007 8:03 AM

Ask some of the physicist that are working on hydrogen fusion. I understand they have some of the same problems.

Mike

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06/05/2007 12:42 AM

These fusion devices keep a continuously moving stream of charged particles contained within a magnetic field. If the object is to get particles in one place and keep them there, then that's another matter.

You may also want to look into Helmholtz coils as your first layer of magnetic environment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_coil

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06/09/2007 9:45 PM

The Magnetic-Deflection-coil is called "Helmholtz coil" as you can see in TV's deflection coils.

These are very special coils fixed around the neck of CRTs in TV

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06/10/2007 1:33 AM

That may be true, but the original coils were created to form a region of perfectly balanced magnetism, in essence create a fairly large area of no magnetic force, which would not interfere with experiments be conducted within. (18th Century science).

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06/11/2007 9:41 PM

Of course it is true. I just referred to the actual use now-a-days

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06/11/2007 9:45 PM

"Of course it is true. I just referred to the actual use now-a-days" #9 Post is from me. I was not logged-in erroneously Sorry for confusion about commentator

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