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VHF Transceiver Crystals

10/06/2013 4:06 PM

This is a Cleartone CH 800 which is very similar to the Yaesu FT202. Something puzzles me about this radio. The crystals with darker print on them are soldered in place and not in sockets. The other crystals are in sockets (one for Tx and other for Rx). A switch on top of unit is connected to the socketed crystals and the empty sockets so they could be selected were they populated. Switch is not connected to the soldered crystals at all. The socketed crystals are selected by channel 1 on the switch. My question is ...what are the SOLDERED crystals for? The unit does not transmit or receive on those frequencies on the soldered crystals. But does for socketed crystals frequencies. The unit does seem to have some kind of tone burst module built in ,sort of as a modification, if thats anything to do with it. Thanks for reading.

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Re: VHF transceiver crystals

10/06/2013 7:49 PM

Probably the local oscillator, for the receiver. If it is double conversion and most are there will be two. One may have 10.7 Mhz a common Hi IF frequency the other may have 10.245 to give a common Lo If of 455 KHz

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Re: VHF transceiver crystals

10/07/2013 5:43 AM

Thankyou for your reply. One has 169.4875 and other 169.4750 printed on it.Is that consistent with there being local oscillator xtals?

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Re: VHF Transceiver Crystals

10/07/2013 10:37 PM

Where did you find that beast? Those two frequencies are a transmit/receive pair for what is listed as "Social Radios", apparently meant for communication between elderly patients and their monitoring service, or as "Aids for the hearing impaired", so that radio is probably from Europe. In the US they're in the commercial VHF band. I hope you have a license for it.

I bet that if you remove the socketed crystals the transceiver will revert to the soldered in frequencies. Amazing how all that circuitry now resides on a single chip SDR (Software Defined Radio).

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Re: VHF Transceiver Crystals

04/23/2016 12:51 PM

I know this is an old thread but I thought I would clear this matter up just in case it helps someone out there.

This transceiver has been modified. Originally it was single channel using the crystals with the dark markings. Subsequently it's operating frequency was changed and new crystals added. Whoever did this couldn't be bothered to remove the original crystals, so they just disconnected them from the channel switch. Normally this transceiver has six channels and the channel switch connects to all twelve crystal positions.

Incidentally, the receiver 2nd oscillator crystal is the one above the metal screen to the left of the picture .

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