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Electrical TNS Earthing System

06/14/2014 2:25 AM

Hi Guys,

Why do the electrical earthing system need to have at least 2 earth chamber with earth rod and in ring formation before connecting to the main earth terminal?

To reduce the overall resistance?

Sorry not a electrical guy.

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing system

06/14/2014 5:13 AM

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

06/14/2014 4:16 PM

Sorry not a electrical guy?

TNS = Terra Neutral Separate

Not many non electrical people would know that little gem. Methinks you know the answer Mr. Anonymous.

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

06/16/2014 8:49 AM

Staying Anonymous doesn't mean I know the answer, replying doesn't mean you know the answer.

Thank you for your time.

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

06/14/2014 10:09 PM

Can you spell "redundancy"?

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

06/16/2014 8:51 AM

Thank you.

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

06/15/2014 12:46 AM

Ring circuit(earth or sockets)ensures reliablity even if one of the two wires on the ring breaks.

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

06/16/2014 8:51 AM

Thank you

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

06/15/2014 6:11 AM

Good question. Please sign up to the forum, and you will likely get a good answer.

(we need more people like you who are honest about what they don't know, and are willing to meet us half way.)

And no, in answer, I have no freakin' idea why the ring...grin!

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

06/16/2014 8:52 AM

Thank you

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

06/17/2014 4:37 AM

IEC 60364 distinguishes three families of earthing arrangements, using the two-letter codes TN, TT, and IT.

The first letter indicates the connection between the power-supply equipment (generator or transformer) and the earth.

  • "T" - Direct connection of a point (wye point) with earth (Latin: terra)
  • "I" - No point is connected with earth (isolation), except perhaps via a high impedance.

The second letter indicates the connection between casing / housing / the earth point of the electrical device being supplied and the earth.

  • "T" - Direct connection of a point with earth
  • "N" - Direct connection to neutral at the origin of installation, which is connected to the earth
  • "U" - Metallic casing are connected with each other, but not intentionally with the earth.
  • "M" - Metallic casing are connected with each other and connected with the supply wye point, but not intentionally with the earth.

In case of a third or a fourth letter; this indicates the design of the neutral line and/or the protection line (earth connection line)

  • "S" - the neutral and the earth connection line are separated wires (S = separation)
  • "C" - the same wire is used for neutral and earth connection line (C = combined)
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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

07/16/2014 1:11 AM

I agree with you, rudy.leurs: IEC 60364-1 is referring to TNS as one earthing type system- with a separated PE grounding conductor. But, it seems to me, the OP was referred to "earth chamber". Maybe one of these:

An "earth chamber" is employed to connect a grounding-vertical-rod with a horizontal grounding cable and for testing the grounding rod. Why we need 2 of these? In a substation or in a power station could be a hundred, depends of how many grounding rods one needs. The modern grounding system is using cadweld-or other welding technology-and it doesn't need "earth chambers".

The foundation grounding- and earth ring-see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_ground

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07/16/2014 1:20 AM

The "earth chamber" image did not appear. I'll try one more time.

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Re: Electrical TNS Earthing System

07/20/2014 1:21 AM

I guess you are in the U.K. We don't use a ring system in OZ, so I am saying you don't NEED a ring system unless it is mandated by legislation.

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