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Socket Weld & Threaded Ends

02/20/2015 6:55 AM

Hi, I recently got a job to renew a gate valve off a steam out header, I narrowed down the valve to Velvan S-2054B-02TY but the valve specifications states that the valve has one threaded end and a socket welded end. First time encountered this, I was wondering why this type of set-up is required for the connections?

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Re: Socket Weld & Threaded Ends

02/20/2015 8:48 AM

The socket-weld connection is normally a better pressure containment joint than the threaded joint.

So the valve would be installed with the socket-weld end on the up-stream (high pressure) side and the threaded end on the lower (or non-pressure) side.

Valves with this type if end connections are normally used for:

a) - A High Point Vent with the threaded side plugged

b) - A Low Point Drain with the threaded side piped to a drain funnel or plugged

c) - A PI (Pressure Indicator) Root valve

d) - A Sample Point Root Valve

Notes:

1. A 'Root Valve' is the valve that performs the function of primary shut-off of a branch from a main line.

2. Piping drawings (Isometrics, etc.) need to carry instructions so the valve is installed properly.

I hope this is helpful.

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02/20/2015 10:11 AM

Thank you for the info.

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Re: Socket Weld & Threaded Ends

02/20/2015 10:16 AM

It is important that the replacement valve is identical in ANSI class rating and service rating, and the valve connection configuration must match the original valve.

Examples:

If the original valve is socket weld on both sides the replacement must be socket weld on both sides.

If the original valve is socket weld on the upstream HP side and threaded on the downstream outlet LP side then the replacement valve must be the same configuration.

Failure to follow strict valve replacement requirements can/will result in severe safety and performance consequences.

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Re: Socket Weld & Threaded Ends

02/20/2015 3:28 PM

Shock,

I do not know if I can agree or disagree with your two example comments.

Can you give us more information where this comes from and maybe the exact wording of the citation?

Interesting points.

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02/20/2015 11:53 PM

Having one end threaded and the other "smooth" can also facilitate service and replacement.

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