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Review: Popcorn Hour A-110 & Popcorn Hour C-200

Posted August 27, 2009 12:00 AM by Kaplin

Note: My experiences are with the PCH A-110, the PCH C-200 will be released soon and have all the features of the A-110 plus much more.

A few weeks ago I posted about Media Center Extenders, and explained the features and benefits of having such a device to act as a bridge between your computer and television.

The most popular media center devices are the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3, mostly due to the fact that many people already have one of these consoles in their home and there is no need to buy extra hardware.

Although I started off with using the Xbox 360 and then used the Playstation 3 media capabilities, I found they were not sufficient enough for my needs. Neither console supported the MKV Video Container, which has quickly become the standard for high definition video.

To playback these HD videos on one of the game consoles, the files would have to be converted to another format such as MP4, VOB, or WMV. This is a waste of time and hard disk space; plus, converting adds in the possibly of quality loss.

This is where the Popcorn Hour (PCH) comes in; the device is able to play back almost any type of video you throw at it without a hiccup.

Download TV and Movies without a Computer
Although the Popcorn Hour doesn't come with any internal storage, there is a bay for the user to install an internal hard drive of their choosing.

With a hard disc installed, you will not only be able to store your movies on the device, but also download directly from the internet to your Popcorn Hour's hard drive by installing the Vuze Bittorrent client. With this method, you don't even need access to a PC on your network.

PlayOn - Stream Hulu to your TV
If the Popcorn Hour is used in conjunction with a software program called PlayOn, you can gain access to all the shows and movies on Hulu as well as YouTube, Netflix Watch Instantly, and other on-demand internet video services.

One drawback is that the Popcorn Hour is not officially supported by PlayOn, and sometimes you will get the dreaded "No Content Found on Server" message when trying to use the program. This can be fixed by resetting the Popcorn Hour, which is a little annoying but not the end of the world.

New Features of the Popcorn Hour C-200
Sybas, the company who develops the Popcorn Hour has released specs on the new model, the Popcorn Hour C-200, which will be available for sale very shortly. The new device incorporates an upgraded processor for decoding and playing video.

One of the biggest draws of the new device is that in addition to being able to install an internal hard drive, you can now install a Blu-ray drive, making it a very cheap Blu-ray player. (PC drives are nearing the $50 mark)

The Ethernet port on the new C-200 model has been upgraded as well with Gigabit Ethernet connectivity. This should reduce the amount of buffer time before playback starts, which was not even too bad on the older model.

Fast Forward / Rewind
Most video types have no issue with fast forwarding or rewinding but there are a few types of HD videos that won't let you. The reason for this is that the processor isn't capable of decoding the frames fast enough for these tasks. Although support for FF/R has improved with firmware updates, it is still not available for all formats. Hopefully the upgraded processor in the PCH C-200 can help remedy this issue. (Some relief is had with the ability to skip anywhere from 0%-90% in the video by pressing 0-9 on your remote.)

Customizability
Features that draws techie-types to the Popcorn Hour are the customization options available for the device. Sure, there are tons of choices in the options to tweak the device's audio, video and network settings but those options are just the tip of the iceberg for the advanced user.

Since the Popcorn Hour runs on an HTML interface, you can create your own custom menus and features with minimal web programming experience. There is also a dedicated web forum for Popcorn Hour users to ask questions or discuss advanced usage of the device.

Sybas also recently released a Popcorn Hour API and Dev Kit, which makes the possibilities for programmers almost limitless.

Final Thoughts
Since canceling my cable service from Time Warner six months ago, the Popcorn Hour has become the primary content provider for my living room. As far as I can see, this device is a must for anyone who wants to free themselves of the high monthly fees charged by the cable companies without losing their content.

More Info:
Welcome to Popcorn Hour
Networked Media Tank Forums
PlayOn Digital Media Server

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Re: Review: Popcorn Hour A-110 & Popcorn Hour C-200

08/27/2009 2:03 PM

I have an old component input tv capable of 1080i and I'm curious if this box is going to cripple the component output to DVD quality if it doesn't get the HDCP handshake.

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08/27/2009 2:24 PM

I searched a bit on the forums and found this thread. The poster is specifically asking about HDCP compliance for HDMI but the answers indicate that there is no HDCP requirement in the Popcorn Hour.

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=23383

Looking at the spec sheet for the new model, the HDMI output mentions HDCP but the component doesn't. I am pretty sure that if HDCP is enabled, it will only be enabled for content provided through partners and not with your own downloaded videos.

http://www.networkedmediatank.com/wiki/index.php/Popcorn_Hour_C-200

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08/27/2009 3:38 PM

Great, thanks for the links. This should make a good replacement for my mediacenter PC when it dies.

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10/02/2009 3:53 AM

Reads more like a preview than a review. No Pro/Cons (every item has both) or and comparison or even mention of there being countless other options (smells like marketing)

Obviously no mention of the network bug.

Did you actually use the device or just read the spread sheet and the marketing brochures?

Just my 2 cents.

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10/02/2009 7:57 AM

If you read the article you see at the top that it says I have the Popcorn Hour A-110. This article was written before the C-200 was even released. (so Obviously the part about the C-200 is a preview)

As for the network bug, I did mention it under the PlayOn Section. That is the only time I have ran into any network issues using PlayOn. (since PlayOn is not officially supported).

I also mentioned how recent firmware updates have fixed a lot of the fast forward and rewind issues that I was having.

Is there some other network bug that I'm not aware of?

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11/05/2009 9:16 AM

The network bug that he is probably talking about is that the C-200 won't perform properly with streaming video off a sever (samba, nas or whatever). The video breaks up and drops out. The bandaid they released to fix this problem was give you a setting to turn off gigabit mode and just have the box operate in 10/100 mode. At this setting it's pretty stable but of course you aren't able to fully utilize the hardware.

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Popcorn Hour A-110 1080i playback

11/11/2009 3:22 PM

Hello-

I have owned an A-110 for a few months and have always had an issue with 1080i playback of .mkv files. Lower resolution (720p) .mkv files play fine from my internal HD in the A-110 but I've never had any luck playing 1080i. My display is a 50" Panasonic plasma fed HDMI. I suspected that the processor in the A-110 was not adequate for 1080i. The A-110 is connected to the network via 100Mbt hardwire ethernet through a router/switch.

Yesterday, I installed an HP XW 8200 on my network (multi CPU). A sample 1080i .mkv plays flawlessly on the computer/monitor itself. From the A-110, I network browsed to the shared file and attempted to play. Nothing...attempts to play then falls back to menu screen (no crash). I'm missing some part of the concept here. Any help will be appreciated.

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11/11/2009 4:07 PM

Hmmmm, I haven't tried any 1080i files on my A-110 but I have played 1080p files. I haven't noticed any issues with the 1080p movies I've watched, so if the processor is fast enough for 1080p it should be able to handle 1080i and since you are using a hardwire connection, not sure if it is a network issue either.

What format are the files you are trying to play? There is a handy tool called MKVMerge that will convert almost any video to be compatible with the Popcorn Hour. (Including other MKV files that are causing issues)

Another possible option would be to try playing the file from a USB stick plugged into the PCH to determine if it is a network issue or not. I will try to download a few 1080i files in the next day or so and see if they give me any troubles.

If you want some other opinons you can try posting over at the Networked Media Tank forums where some of the developers might have a look at your issue. If you think it is specific to the way the video is encoded, you might want to run this program called MediaInfo and post the results over there.

(unrelated: My Popcorn Hour C-200 should be sent out in the Nov. 20th batch. )

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Re: Popcorn Hour A-110 1080i playback

11/11/2009 4:22 PM

Thanks for the quick response.

Same file would not play from the internal HD in the A-110.

I will try your other suggestions and reply.

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11/11/2009 9:20 PM

Just to experiment, in Settings under Audio/Video, I changed the Framerate Sync setting from "Off" to "NTSC/PAL/24p". Now my problem 1080i .mkv file plays perfectly from the internal HD! Fast forward works well but rewind gives the error indicator. (Many files seem to have NO rewind capability) ??? Do I remember reading about some key sequence on the remote that will cause a 10 or 20 sec replay? (Maybe some other equipment.)

Also, any browsing or playback from Hulu via PlayOn quickly yields "No material on server"...reboot to be able to access again.

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Re: Popcorn Hour A-110 1080i playback

11/12/2009 11:25 AM

Awesome, glad to hear you solved your problem with the settings.

For rewind, if you press the left arrow on your remote you will see the Time Seek will come up, pressing it again and then and pressing enter should send you back 30 seconds.

As for PlayOn, I have the same issue and a little disappointed to hear that it doesn't work at all with the C-200. It's possible future firmware updates will change that though. As you probably know, Sybas is really good about updating their player. Oh well, most shows I would rather watch in HD than via Hulu but it's nice to have access to it.

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