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The Flu and You

Posted August 30, 2009 7:30 AM

In the northern hemisphere, winter is once again on its way. And with it comes flu season, and perhaps our first serious encounter with the H1N1 avian flu. The typical strategy — which focuses on inoculating the elderly and very young — may not be the best way to protect the most people. Simulations reported in a recent paper in Science show that for a disease like the H1N1 avian flu, inoculating school kids and their parents reduces the number of deaths most efficiently. This, the Clemson and Yale researchers believe, is because kids are primary spreaders of the disease. Does inoculating all school kids make sense to you? What (if anything) will you do differently this year to react to the threat of H1N1?

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08/30/2009 10:52 PM

It was just reported today that 10% of New York City contracted H1N1. Of that number (800,000) how many were vaccinated? How many died? Why are 'they' pressing this vaccine onto the population?

I found 4 deaths in NYC all with previous health conditions....

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08/31/2009 1:07 PM

It's the medical industry's government stimulus package!

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08/31/2009 10:54 AM

a little mistake not avian but ....swine flu. :)

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11/05/2009 7:40 PM

"Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between 1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diphtheria, and measles occurred before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics."
Dr. Archie Kalokerinos, M.D. PhD

Are vaccinations safe and effective?

Historical trends indicate vaccines have had little positive effect: Historical trends show that deaths caused by childhood illnesses had already declined as much as 98% before vaccine programs were ever initiated. Evidence indicates that an improved standard of living, better nutrition, and increased sanitation, caused this drop in disease, not vaccines. Evidence also indicates that statistical tampering over the last sixty years has made vaccines appear more effective than they truly are.

"In fact there have been some massive disasters around the world following vaccination programs, and that measles for example was dying out in Europe and then they started the vaccination program and it rose again. The thing that had cured measles was in fact the better nutrition...the vaccination wasn't solving these problems at all, just as many people were getting sick post vaccinations as they were before." Pauline Rose I.N.P.

"And it was clearly demonstrated that the only people who got smallpox twice were the vaccinated, and that there are far more cases of smallpox among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated, and these statistics are available." Dr. Archie Kalokerinos, M.D. PhD

"Polio has not been eradicated by vaccination, it is lurking behind a redefinition and new diagnostic names like viral or aseptic meningitis...According to one of the 1997 issues of the MMWR there are some 30,000 to 50,000 cases of viral meningitis in the United States alone. That's were all those 30,000 - 50,000 cases of polio disappeared after the introduction of mass vaccination" Dr. Vera Schiebner

There is no shown benefit of vaccinated over unvaccinated people.

The CDC reported a measles outbreak in a 100% documented vaccinated population. Studies show that children who recieved vaccinations were 14 times more likely to become learning disabled and develope asthma. There is virtually no asthma in unvaccinated children. Unvaccinated people are healthier, have higher disease resistance, and recover more rapidly from illness. There have never been any saftey studies done on vaccines that would meet the appropriate criteria. Sources: Donald Meserlian P.E. VOSI Chariman, & ASTM Member

In 1954 the Americans pushed forward a polio campaign. What happened within the first year was that to their horror they found that particularily one type of the polio vaccine was causing polio. Because the vaccine is not a killed virus, your giving polio in a partly killed form. They got rid of that particular type of the vaccine. Then they realized that all the forms of the polio vaccine caused polio. So what they did is redefine it. They only called it polio if you still had paralysis after 60 days. Now in most cases polio paralysis resolves after a few days. So that's how the statistics of polio went down. By changing the definitions. Dr. David Ritchie

Vaccine Injuries are Grossly underreported. There are many vaccine related deaths every year.

"In 1978 a childhood immunisation initiatve was begun. Individual states passed legislation requiring proof of immunisation for school entry at 5 and 6 years of age. They mandated vaccination and it resulted in a three fold increase in the reported incidents of whooping cough and indeed children developed whooping cough from the vaccines." Dr. Vera Schiebner

Vaccination Facts: You need to know...

Vaccines in Canada: Today, Canadian infants may be injected with up to 8 vaccines at one time, starting at the age of two months. By age 6, a child can receive up to 41 doses of 11 vaccines with more new vaccines about to be added to the list. Injections are not adjusted according to the baby's weight—a 5lb infant will be injected with the same amount of vaccine as a 12lb infant.

Vaccines contain dangerous chemicals and prservatives

The chemicals added as preservatives and adjuvants(intended to make them more powerful) to vaccines are dangerous; they include formaldehyde, aluminium phosphate, phenol, alum, acetone, and some still contain Thimerosal (preservative containing 50% mercury). Many of these chemicals are neurotoxic and lead to a myriad of other health issues; they have been linked to autism, Attention Deficit Disorder, and other developmental disorders. These toxic chemicals build up in the system over time. Common sense should dictate that injecting toxic chemicals into the bodies of neurologically immature babies is dangerous. The flu shot still does contain mercury.

Vaccines are cultured in such tissues as monkey kidney cells, rabbit and dog brains, horse blood, fetal calf blood, chick embryos, and even human fetal lung tissue. Under normal curcumstances, the body only encounters foreign animal proteins though the digestive tract; when injected directly into the blood stream, these proteins can wreak havoc on the body.

"It is a well documented fact that the incidents and mortality from infectious diseases like measles, whooping cough, rubella, mumps fell by 90% before any vaccine had even been introduced." Dr. Vera Schiebner

Scarlet fever was in existence at the same time and at the same levels as whooping cough, measels, and polio. Incidents of scarlet fever interestingly dropped off at the same rate as the others and we never vaccinated for scarlet fever. Dr. Robyn Cosford

Vaccines bypass the body's normal lines of defence: There is a fundamental issue with injecting particles of infectious deseases directly into the bloodstream, thereby bypassing the immune system's first line of defence

called the Th1 level of the immune system in a "surprise attack" on the second line of defence called the Th2 level—that is so distressing to the body it can cause anaphylactic shock. In nature, diseases are introduced into the body through the nose, mouth, skin and lungs, triggering a first line of defence that usally combats the illness before it ever reaches the bloodstream. Vaccines repeated "back-door assaults" on the Th2 level of the immune system make it hyper-sensitive and compel it to react inappropriately to other normally harmless substances like peanuts; the result is a generation of children with damaged immune systems who suffer from food and environmental allergies, asthma, and increasingly with life threatening anaphylactic disorders.

"Study after study has shown that many women immunized against rubella as children lack evidence of immunity in blood tests given during their adolescent years." Dr. Mendelsohn M.D.

Vaccines do not prevent diseases...they made the receipients most suseptable to the disease which the vaccine is suppose to prevent and a host of unrelated bacterial and viral infections. Vaccines cause alergies, sensitivities to foods and substances and all sorts of things and the evidence of the cause and link between administaration of vaccines and observed side effect is irrefutable. Whether it is brain damage or death it's all well documented. Dr. Vera Schiebner

In 1976 I was working in the Gulf Country around Cape York, in an aboriginal community consisting of about 300 people. The Health Department sent around a team and vaccinated about 100 of them against the flu. Six were dead within 24 hours or so and they weren't all old people, one man being in his early twenties. They threw the bodies in trucks to take to the coast were autopsies were done. It appeared they had died from heart attacks.

Dr. Archie Kalokerinos, M.D. PhD.

I am no longer "trying to dig up evidence" to prove vaccines cause autism. There is already abundant evidence...This debate is not scientific but is political. David Ayoub, M.D.

Vaccinations are NOT mandatory in Canada. There are only regulations in Ontario, New Brunswick and Manitoba for school entry. However these provinces have exceptions on the basis of medical or religious grounds and reasons of conscience. There is no compulsory immunization in effect now.

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