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Fallout Shelters: What's Their Legacy?

Posted October 11, 2011 7:00 AM

Those of us who grew up in the Cold War years remembel those duck-and-cover drills in elementary schools, some of which boasted reinforced concrete basements that served as Civil Defense structures. As David Monteyne's new book, Fallout Shelter, points out, those Civil Defense structurers offered the population a glimmer of hope that they might survive a nuclear war. At the same, those featureless underground doomsday shelters, the author notes, would have a long-lasting architectural impact not only in the U.S., but all around the globe. That's clear from the wave of concrete office and educational facilities that were built, often designed with vast underground spaces. Are such doomsday structures a thing of the past, or do vestiges remain in current building and design practice?

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10/11/2011 8:12 AM

I'm sure they are still being incorporated into designs...............................just not so much by private citizens. Only the government has the vast and endless supply of money to build such structures.

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10/11/2011 10:14 AM

The old ones that still exist make great places to store potatoes or drink and play poker.

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10/11/2011 10:47 PM

umm... that was a jail my friend... you were in the drunk tank, and they just told you it was a fallout shelter!

okay... just kidding.

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10/12/2011 8:18 AM

There's one right next door to me.......................a BIG one. Solid, thick concrete.................underground. A guy built it back in the late 50s, early 60s. From what I understand, his underground drinking/gambling parties were famous among the "in" crowd. He also had friends on the police force, so these parties went on undisturbed. I bet it was fun.

It's dark and full of spiders now, but the full sized bar is still there. You can almost hear laughter echoing from the past when down there.

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08/12/2013 2:55 PM

They said they found a place for me...a big house, with a yard.

A Big House, with an exercise yard. Who knew! (I blame single malt Scotch)

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10/12/2011 12:45 AM

Shelters should be incorporated in structures to protect against floods,lightning,cyclones,bomb blasts,earthquake too in addition to war-situation

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10/12/2011 8:00 AM

A step even past the Fallout Shelters are old missle silos that were built. There are some that were built here in Kansas and still around today. All the critical workings have been removed, leaving the concrete structure. Some of these have been sold and converted to personal residences.

Pretty good storm protection here in Kansas where we get the occasional tornado.

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10/12/2011 9:26 AM

One of the old Atlas missile silos near the now defunct Plattsburg AFB was bought from the Gov and converted into a combo dwelling & office. It was up for sale a year or two ago. I don't know if the developers ever sold it, but it was very cool! Also, they spent a small fortune pumping out the water and patching the numerous wall leaks that permitted groundwater intrusion into the silo.

One thing to bear in mind with old CD shelters and bunkers is that they may provide shielding against radiation and blast effects, but if it's located in the thermonuclear "fireball" most likely the O2 will be sucked out of the shelter and all inside will die due to lack of oxygen (unless there's adequately sealed blast doors)........

Does anybody remember what happened in Dresden Germany during the WWII bombing raids (by the RAF Bomber Command) with the resulting fire storm? Scores of German civilians died of a result of oxygen deprivation.

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10/12/2011 9:39 AM

Oh BTW, I forgot to mention that there's a few old and abandoned BOMRAC missile silos located around the Stewart international Airport in Newburg NY, some 50 miles north of NYC....it was once a SAC/TAC base that was closed in the late 60's.

and...there are several more old Atlas silos located up in the North Country around Plattsburg NY....I know of at least two of them (there are more of them [like 12 total], but I can't remember where exactly)...one in the Town of Dannemora (near the NYS Prison there), and another one located in the Town of Lewis. there are also old and abandoned missile silos located around the now closed Griffiss AFB (a SAC B-52 base) in Rome NY.....more very good CD shelters if rehabbed correctly.

I do not know if those sites are or have been sold by the Gov, but I recently came across several pics of them online. They'd be excellent shelters once rehabbed!

With any luck I'll find those pics again and post them here...

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