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New Hacker Target: Your Car

Posted December 06, 2011 9:03 AM

Add the family car to the list of computer-controlled devices that could become fair game for hackers, says Businessweek. In lab and road tests, researchers found ways to remotely activate a car's brakes, stop its engine, and control lights and locks. To protect against such threats, the Society of Automtive Engineers (SAE) has formed a committee to draft new auto security standards. One possible remedy: Greater use of encrypted data in auto electronics.

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12/06/2011 10:11 AM

So, the cars become more and more complicated pieces of equipment because we can't remember to turn on the wipers when it's raining, we can't remember to belt ourselves in, our hind ends get cold, we can't remember to buy fuel, we cannot be comfortable with the 71°F selected by our seatmate we feel we must be 74°F to be comfortable, we drive carelessly...

And now, hackers are taking advantage of this overly complicated ball of wires and controllers. We now must make the electronics even more complicated to resist interference because we cannot play nice.

I am reminded of the story about the eskimo who was convinced to install a heater in his house. Then his food spoiled, and he was convinced to purchase a refrigerator to keep the food cold inside his heated house in the artic. By now he had become fond of butter, but the butter spoiled if stored outside the fridge and was not easily used when stored inside the fridge. So he was convinced to purchase a small heater to install inside a compartment in the fridge...

When is enough really going to be enough?

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12/07/2011 7:01 AM

So, no-one thought of taking out the rotor arm, then?

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12/07/2011 8:43 AM

This is one reason I continue to drive a 1977 Chevrolet. No computer to hack.

I really think we would be better off to get the computers out of cars. They are overly complicated, and the modern car is absolutely dependent on it. If the computer goes out, the car is dead. There's no such thing as getting it running with a screwdriver well enough to return to the shop.

Long live the antiques!

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12/16/2011 3:54 PM

Yeah, we already know this. GM builds these systems into their vehicles on purpose. It's all part of the OnStar package. LoJack and other companies have these systems which allow stolen vehicles to be recovered. That a criminal figured out a way to tap into the system really isn't a great surprise.

We can put really great locks, deadbolts, chains and stop-bars on the front door too. So I'll just come through the window using a rock.

It really doesn't matter how you try to build-up or dumb-down anything...there's always a way to f*** with it.

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01/11/2012 10:46 AM

Then the manufacturers will run foul of the European anti-monopoly (or anti-anti-competition) legislation that requires OEMs to make their CANbus, LINbus anf FLEXRay protocols transparent/available to everyone.

The rationale behind this legislation is to open up aftermarket servicing, diagnostics and retrofitting. It is in place for light duty and on its way for Heavy Duty.

It will make our job much easier! (No, I'm not a hacker!)

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