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FAA Begins Reconsideration of Electronic Device Policy

Posted September 25, 2012 12:00 AM by Milo

(But I'd still be careful about what I was doing...)

The FAA wants your comments regarding in flight Portable Electronic Device policy.

"The FAA seeks comments on current policy, guidance, and procedures that aircraft operators (ranging from pilots of general aviation aircraft up to and including air carrier certificate holders at the major airlines) use when determining if passenger use of portable electronic devices (PEDs) may be allowed during any phase of flight on their aircraft. "

Read their announcement here PED NOTICE

Why do they have the policy? Here is the current FAA Fact Sheet.

No they don't want your seat mate to be gabbing on their cell phone the entire flight.

But they are opening up the possibility that real scientific evidence, rather than just all encompassing paralyzing fear that "something," "could," "happen."

In this case I am rooting for the committee that is to be established.

We just might get some "Intelligent Management of Risk" out of this.

How to comment:

  • Send comments identified by docket number FAA-2012-0752 using any of the following methods:
  • Email: Submit your comments via email to PEDcomment@faa.gov
  • Federal eRulemaking Portal: Go to http://www.regulations.gov and follow the online instructions for sending your comments electronically.
  • Mail: Send comments to Docket Operations, M-30; U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT), 1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE, Room W12-140, West Building Ground Floor, Washington, DC 20590-0001.
  • Hand Delivery or Courier: Take comments to Docket Operations in Room W12-140 of the West Building Ground Floor at 1200 New Jersey Avenue, SE, Washington, DC, between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m., Monday through Friday, except Federal holidays.
  • Fax: Fax comments to Docket Operations at 202-493-2251.

If enough people comment, we might just get to the point that it won't be illegal to take photos out of the window during takeoff and landing.

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Re: FAA Begins Reconsideration of Electronic Device Policy

09/25/2012 9:09 AM

Well, all of these devices are in use already in the cockpit (er... crew cabin) already and have been for decades starting with the EFB (electronic flight bags), iPads, cell phones, laptops, you name it.

The only problem is that pilots have absolute control over what equipment is brought into the cockpit, but no control when some passenger brings on some device that radiates all kinds of garbage all over the RF spectrum because it is either faulty or did not meet FCC guidelines from the beginning.

Nevertheless, cockpit avionics are designed and manufactured to pretty stringent RF susceptibility standards and not likely to be impacted by anything in the passenger compartment.

More likely to cause irritation with the passengers packed like sardines next to you than impact the avionics.

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Re: FAA Begins Reconsideration of Electronic Device Policy

09/26/2012 1:12 AM

If the ban on some electronic gadgets ie cellphones is total bollocks then I say let's maintain the fear.

Planes are about the last place on earth where you can spend time away from a gibbering fool on a phone.

Maintain the ban.

Alternatively, the airlines could have a premium "cellphone class" and keep these addicted nonces to themselves. Leaving the rest of us to enjoy the free booze in peace.

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09/26/2012 9:02 AM

So what exactlyis a nonce? And btw, the point is that the devices couldbeused as cameras email etc not necessarily chatter. Less than 10% of usageon smart "phones" today is telephony. Milo

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09/26/2012 11:37 PM

A common British insult.

There is a "plane" mode on these devices that turns off the phone function.

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09/26/2012 8:53 AM

I for one hope the ban stays in effect.....

There's nothing worse than sitting next to some Gerbil yakking away very loudly on their cell phone for nearly the entire flight! This especially true if I'm working on some business matter or writing an Engineering Report.

Besides, I WANT to be safe, rather then be sorry and praying to the All Mighty, as the plane spirals down into oblivion because some idiot didn't turn off their Gizmo.....

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