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Not Your Ordinary Helicopter Ride

Posted October 11, 2012 8:35 AM by joeymac
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Back when I was in the Navy I was lucky enough to experience a training mission. I was out in Nevada on a bombing training mission and my commanding officer asked me if I felt like being a hostage. At first I thought the old man was messing with me and when I said, "excuse me sir?" and when he asked again I thought he was nuts. He said the Navy Seals are doing a hostage rescue training mission and that they need some volunteers for hostages to rescue and that I should do it because it'll be fun. I figured it would be interesting and I volunteered.

Now keep in mind that I wasn't beaten, tied up, or interrogated like any normal hostage situation. What they did was drive some of us out to a shack in the desert, and have us wait there until the Seals came to rescue us. We waited there for about an hour or so and then all of a sudden I hear explosions going off around us and machine gun fire.

The door gets kicked in with the Seals saying we're here to rescue you and as we're running out the door there are these two H-60 helicopters coming in hot and fast and landed to pick us up, the side door gunner is firing away with his machine gun as we go running into the helicopter and when we were all aboard the helicopter it took off very fast.

The fun wasn't over quite yet. As we're flying in the air the helicopter is flying through canyons. The helicopter is scraping the canyons, going side to side through it. It was an awesome rush, I'd have to admit. This was definitely not your ordinary helicopter ride, and I'm glad to say that I volunteered.

When we finally landed and I went back to work my commanding officer was there and said to me before I could even speak said," I told you it'd be fun".


image from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_UH-60_Black_Hawk

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10/11/2012 10:45 PM

Yeah, that stuff's fun. When we were being trained in air assault operations by the 82d at Bragg back in '84, we did some nap of the earth flights in the 60's. I could swear that if I reached out the door I would brush the leaves on the tree tops. It wasn't that close of course, but it felt that way. Coming into the LZ the pilots just about stood these birds up on end to slow down before dropping the nose down to put the wheels down. Better than any amusement park ride for sure.

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10/12/2012 3:59 AM

That beats my experiences in Singapore with Helicopters, there we were used as "self moving cargo load" (we had legs!) as the Helicopter pilots were practicing on how to land a Helicopter with a failed engine(s).......we went from Helicopter to Helicopter.....after 2 or 3, your stomach got quite used to it.....after you had usually lost your breakfast!!!

I asked why we had to be in the 'copter, the answer being that they had to have a full load and as we had legs, we could go from chopper to chopper under our own steam! It saved time.....

As an 18 year old I was always ready to do anything like that. As I got older, I got more careful......now you know why!!!!

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10/12/2012 11:16 AM

Self moving cargo load. I gotta love that. If that ain't the Army, then nothing is.

That's better than the expression, "It ain't training, if ain't raining."

Were they really doing autorotation? That's not an elegant way to land, but it can save your life if nothing else.

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10/13/2012 6:37 AM

YUP!!!

I don't know if any other methods were in use in the RN in 1964 or not for when an engine failed, I was just dumb cargo....

We still had many single engined Copters at that time.....it could happen. Even twin engined copters could theoretically suffer from the same problem I am informed.....

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11/09/2012 11:48 AM

SMCL doesn't make a good acronym. Being the army, I'm surprised that they didn't have a better acronym than that...

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10/12/2012 11:20 AM

I was a Chinook flight engineer in Vietnam 1969-1970. Most of our flying was either nap of the earth or above 3000' AGL. Anything in between at that time was considered a helicopter kill zone from ground fire.

There were many times we'd come home at night and clean the branches out of our aft landing gear. Once I came home with a couple hundred yards of commo wire trailing behind. Those were super adrenaline raising days.

All that said, my experiences in the "Fat Lady" pale compared to scout and attack helicopters.

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10/13/2012 9:28 PM

A/R in any helicopter is a blast. Use to fly Brantley B2B's for most of my flight training. Very low inertia in the rotors due to the weight of the unit. Had to be Johnny on the spot with collective for A/R or you could loose lift to pull unit out of crash. 50' stands out as a very good number to remember to start pulling the collective back at. thats 50' AGL

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10/16/2012 11:38 AM

Seems we were constantly practicing A/R's to the ground in our Hooks. At least anywhere we could find a reasonably hard packed or paved runway. Fortunately, for helicopters with wheels, little mistakes in the process could usually be resolved with running landings. And prematurely losing inertia in the Chinook's rotor heads never seemed to be a problem, as long as the pilot stayed with the red line rotor rpm on the way down.

That said, I've never been in a helicopter that had to perform a real emergency A/R.

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10/16/2012 11:42 AM

I've never rode down in a bird using A/R either practice or for real. Either way, it would be a sphincter tightening experience for me !

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10/16/2012 12:06 PM

It is, the first couple of times anyway.

But as the engines were only switched off, was it a "real" A/R?

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