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Custom Refrigerants: Are You Ready?

Posted July 24, 2013 8:00 AM by larhere

Many remember the ferocity of the Refrigerant Wars in the 1990's as industry debated pros and cons of refrigerant properties which grew to include environmental and increasing safety considerations. Europe spearheaded the early use of a mixture called R-407C for many unitary and chiller applications. R-134a and other refrigerants entered the market for specific applications with competitive and regulatory pressures shaping the landscape which included increasing use of natural refrigerants including hydrocarbons and CO2.

Although there is no consensus on what the best refrigerant is for each type of product or each part of the world there was an emerging picture that recently appears to have become more cloudy.

The growing battle over use of R-134a in mobile air conditioning in Europe has been brewing for a number of years with an earlier agreement by the auto industry to use R-134a having been reversed to use R-1234yf. This reversal was proceeding reasonably well until Mercedes maker Daimler decided that R-1234yf did not meet safety standards Daimler developed internally and announced they would stay with R-134a for their cars due to the elevated flammability risk with R-1234yf.

The latest volley has been fired in this intensifying battle with France banning the sale of new automobiles with R-134a. Germany is allowing the sale of such. Which refrigerants for auto ac has still to be determined. Other parts of the world are starting to address this same issue.

The turbulence in the industry on the issue of "refrigerants" continues to grow as various parts of the global HVAC/R industry increasingly realize there are choices in refrigerants and opportunities in selecting or developing custom refrigerants for their products, for the technologies they use in their products, for their part of the world or country where national regulations can create or destroy a market overnight.

Middle East countries have recognized this opportunity and have been looking at the high ambient performance of new refrigerants and seeing opportunities worth pursuing. A UNEP-UNIDO project was initiated last month in Dubai with funding from the MLF of the Montreal Protocol titled Promoting Low-GWP Alternative Refrigerants in Air-Conditioning Industry for High Ambient Countries. This initiative will coordinate activities and research for what is a significant part of the global HVAC/R market, that of high ambient conditions.

The move to custom refrigerants is accelerating. Look for growing interest in having unique refrigerants (and custom blends which may have many of the same "ingredients"), but offer unique advantages to different markets and different applications around the world.

The Refrigerants Issue will continue to present opportunities and risks. This is not the time for complacency.

Editor's Note: CR4 would like to thank Larry Butz of GEA Consulting for contributing this blog entry.

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07/25/2013 12:18 AM

This sounds like an inventory nightmare for all sorts of persons.

Cui bono???

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07/25/2013 1:22 AM

Even after four decades of research still no real exact substitutes for CFCS which dominated the refrigeration industries for more than six decades. Custom refrigerants provide flexibility to the end users to prepare own refrigerants which meets environmental and required thermodynamic properties.

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07/25/2013 11:21 AM

I don't see what the big fuss over flammability is being that the oils used in AC systems are usually highly flammable.

Then there is the overwhelming over site that vehicles are loaded with highly flammable fuel plastics foam and whatnot yet no one lifts a concerned eye over that aspect.

Same issue with AC systems in home and industrial places. A few pounds of of flammable refrigerant safely contained in a sealed system is bad but having high capacity natural gas and propane lines running all over in the walls is not a problem?

Personally I don't think the flammability potential is the real issue at all. Politics and money are.

There are refrigerants like R-290 which are environmentally friendly, highly efficient, and dirt cheap to make but it is bad because its flammable? Yet having a 1000 gallon tank of the same stuff connected to my house gas is not or having a large natural gas line with a unlimited source capacity is not? Also what about all of those flammable spray cans my wife has in the bathroom or all the flammable oils in the kitchen?

R-290. (Pure C3H8 Propane)

It's not about the refrigerants and it never was. It's all money greed and the politics that drive them.

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07/25/2013 11:41 AM

Flamability IS the issue if we are to believe the substance of this quote from the Wikipedia article on the subject:

"In December 2012, it was reported that tests by Mercedes-Benz showed that the substance ignited into a ball of fire when researchers sprayed it and A/C compressor oil onto a car's hot engine. Stefan Geyer, a senior Daimler engineer who ran the tests, stated "We were frozen in shock, I am not going to deny it. We needed a day to comprehend what we had just seen." Combustion occurred in more than two thirds of simulated head-on collisions."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,3,3,3-Tetrafluoropropene

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07/25/2013 3:12 PM

So what happens when you spray hot oil, diesel fuel, or gasoline on a hot manifold of an engine?

Or for that matter the oil that is presently used in automotive AC systems. Believe me I have torched enough charged AC system lines with cutting torches and plasma cutters to know full well every type of refrigerant and the oil used with it bursts into a roaring jet like flame.

I bet those goons were even more shocked when all of that plastic and rubber they have on their engine started burning too!

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07/25/2013 4:17 PM

Notwithstanding the statement from the Benz design team - I agree completely with your comments. It is the politics of big money, and don't forget that high prices generate high taxes too! Everyone wins except the monkey at the bottom of the food chain.

There are Propane and Natural Gas powered vehicles running on the streets too. These usually have 100 pounds of the 'refrigerant' being used as a fuel - and being piped right to the hot parts. The stunned engineers were probably testing seat springs and just got surprised.

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07/25/2013 9:08 PM

I am one of those people with the propane powered vehicles!

If they sold propane as a refrigerant at the prices I pay per gallon here thy might get 40 cents a pound for it on a expensive day whereas right now my tanks of R-22 are pushing $12 pound purchase price and likely two to three times that installed price.

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