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The Atlantic Apprenticeships: Why Germany Is So Much Better at Training Its Workers

Posted October 28, 2014 11:00 AM by Milo
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The need for talent is a universal concern- in Germany and in North America. The German apprenticeship model is effective in Germany. But can it be successfully transplanted here?

The Atlantic recently posted an article discussing the German Apprenticeship model here

Machinists are in high demand.

They gave 3 key differences between German and US ideas of apprenticeships:

  1. The first thing you notice about German apprenticeships: The employer and the employee still respect practical work. German firms don't view dual training as something for struggling students or at-risk youth. "This has nothing to do with corporate social responsibility," an HR manager at Deutsche Bank told the group I was with, organized by an offshoot of the Goethe Institute. "I do this because I need talent."
  2. The second thing you notice: Both employers and employees want more from an apprenticeship than short-term training. Our group heard the same thing in plant after plant: We're teaching more than skills. "In the future, there will be robots to turn the screws," one educator told us. "We don't need workers for that. What we need are people who can solve problems"-skilled, thoughtful, self-reliant employees who understand the company's goals and methods and can improvise when things go wrong or when they see an opportunity to make something work better.
  3. A final virtue of the German system: its surprising flexibility. Skeptical Americans worry that the European model requires tracking, and it's true, German children choose at age 10 among an academic high school, a vocational track, or something in between. But it turns out there's a lot of opportunity for trainees to switch tracks later on. They can go back to school to specialize further or earn a master craftsman's certificate or train as a trainer in the company's apprenticeship program-and many do.

Beyond ROI

The question that most North American businessmen have when discussing this issue is ROI- Return On Investment.

In Germany, according to the article, the State pays the training expense for each apprentice-

In the U.S., Companies will have to foot the bill for almost all expenses themselves.

Trained and credentialed employees will have the freedom to leave the employer, arguably before that employer can get any return on their training investment. see our post "What if I train them and They Leave?"

We think that the cost problem and the ROI problem can be solved, with work, here in North America.

But the problem that we need to solve first is what The Atlantic piece calls "the biggest obstacle:"

American attitudes toward practical skills and what Germans still unabashedly call "blue-collar" work. In America… we're suspicious of anything that smacks of training.

I know as a parent, there is a lot of social pride at having ones children attend university.

But I am starting to see that the real pride is not about the university that one's child attends, it is rather the fact that they got a job capable of offering a return on the Investment of all those college expenses.

The real pride for parents these days is being able to say that their child in fact has a full time job. Is living independently. And is not overburdened with debt.

In North America, the way to accomplish this is by "earn as you learn" to pursue a degree after getting a well paying career started. Often the employer provides tuition assistance.

Getting started in a well paying career in advanced manufacturing can be as simple as a one semester training program at a local community college. Not years and years of loans and expenses and fees with no immediate ROI. Earn as you learn makes ROI simultaneous with your efforts, not some dreamed for, long in the distant future hoped for outcome.

Prospects for employment remain strong in the precision machining industry:

In September 2014, ~97 % of respondents (76/78 companies) expect Employment prospects to increase or remain the same over next three months. Prospects for employment remain strongly positive.

What is going to be the key for adopting apprenticeships here in North America?

I think that it will be the realization by all affected- businesses, potential employees, parents of students, educators, government officials- that there truly exists a critical need for talent.

In Germany, everyone knows this. Over here, well, for sure the employers do. everyone else- that is anyone's guess.

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10/29/2014 12:23 AM

First WE are going to have to remove the stigma related to those slovenly blue collar jobs.

Everyone here (in the U.S.) kinda look down on skilled trades as less than desirable employment.

Speaking as a skilled tradesman I see the impact this attitude has in trying to find good highly skilled or highly trainable personnel, unfortunatly for corporations the only way they are going to turn that around now is to throw money at it, yep I breached that subject, corporations are going to have to get out from under the upper echelon GOLDEN UMBRELLA mentality and spread the wealth around.

The skilled trades are essential in the operation of ANY and ALL facilities, homes and businesses plus transportation, without us who you gonna call?

So all I can say is be kind to your skilled tradespeople you depend on us for an awful lot in this high tech world.

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10/29/2014 8:47 AM

Like Rodney Dangerfield said: "I can't get no respect...".

When it was time for my eldest to pick a university - he exhibited no interest whatsoever.The three sons buttonholed their mother and I and, in no uncertain terms advised us that they would not be moving forward in the academic stream.

One phrase which has rung in my mind was asked by son#2: "Why should we go to University? Look at what it did for you and mummy!" I am still not certain exactly what he meant.

Fifteen years later the sons are all Journeymen of their trades, working in a separate world from their cousins. They use their large paychecks as the best way to measure self-respect.

Who paid for their education? The parents had a fund for it which proved ample when combined with some government assistance (a typical Canadian scenario).

The skills shortage remains profound - but Corporate planning here is generally too short-term to address the issue. For this reason the skilled trades continue to be treated as a commodity, like water. If you need water then twist the tap and you have water. However, If you need 150 industrial mechanics, then you may have to talk to the Federal minister of industry and persuade him to let you hire from staff from abroad. This makes the skilled trades an international commodity.

I am happy to say that my sons were completely correct in their assessment. Their chosen lifestyle gives them freedoms that remain out of reach to many with academic credentials.

Respect would be great - but cashing the cheque is the best salve for damaged egos.

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10/29/2014 10:04 AM

Some people do seem to "look down" on the skilled craftsman. I don't know what their problem is. Personally (as an engineer) I have the greatest respect for someone with a trade, they have worked to achieve what they have and they very often have better ideas than can be thought up on "the drawing board".

I grew up in a family that pushed "higher" education and all my siblings took my parents advice (mind you this was quite a long time ago when not everyone was looking for a degree). You can learn some things with a formal education, but you can learn even more through hands on learning or apprenticeship. My father ( a master mechanic and maser welder) taught me more great/applicable stuff than I learned in 17 years of school. Yes, my degree got me a start with my working life, but all that "other" stuff I learned got me to where I am today. I am sure that my three brothers(all engineers) have the same thoughts.

We ran an apprenticeship program for structural fitters back in the 80's - 12 people into the system every year because we could not find people with the skill set we needed. We did receive some government funding but it covered less than a quarter of the costs we incurred. All in all, a very successful program. The problem I see with "skills" training these days, is the paperwork required. It takes a lot of time to get everything prepared/submitted/revised/resubmitted/approved.

Today, we do not have a formal program, but any of my employees that want to learn something relating to our operation, are offered the chance and any one who took the offer has moved up in pay scale accordingly. I can't give them an "official" piece of paper to say what they have learned, but they have the skills required.

We do need more skilled tradespeople, but, collectively will we learn??

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10/30/2014 12:12 PM

"be kind to your skilled tradespeople" Indeed.

Taking care of the machines that carried the people you knew and worked side-by-side with, machines that flew 300 feet above the North Atlantic at night made most of us at least respect each other. The distinction between "Officers and Men" was a military one.

One thing I noticed about the blog entry was no mention of unions, which unless I am mistaken, are strong in Germany.

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10/29/2014 11:29 AM

This is a great statement that shines a light on one problem in our educational system: "What we need are people who can solve problems"-skilled, thoughtful, self-reliant employees who understand the company's goals and methods and can improvise when things go wrong or when they see an opportunity to make something work better."

Our government-driven educational system is not set up to help its students to think critically. It is set up to produce compliant, ignorant, non-thinking little drones who will do what they are told, in the workplace as well as in society. That is one reason among many, why so many parents myself included, chose to Homeschool our kids. We chose the curriculum and the process of education so the kids would have a chance to excell in whatever they chose to do. Henry Ford make some fantastic advances in industry but he really limited himself through some of his thought process, i.e. "why is it when I hire someone for his muscles, a brain comes attached?"

An opposite approach is Toyota who encouraged its workforce to think and innovate, and rewarded them for it. Hence the statement, "none of us are as smart as all of us." When leadership in a company thinks they know it all and have a corner on the smarts they will limit a company's growth and prosperity.

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