well I belongin to that 4% I´m Mexican I studied in the most ancien university in LatinAmerica and the most importan too the "Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico" it´s a public school so I guess I´ve spend no more than a 1000 dollars when I was student. Acording to UNESCO "UNAM" its ranking the 74 university worldwide.

Thanks for the reply, Ingemax. I'll see what I might learn about UNAM and other schools in Mexico. Can you share more about UNESCO's ranking and its purpose? That ranking may offer much good information on engineering schools worldwide.

Also, on a personal note, when NAFTA (North American Free Trade Association) was nearing approval, I was involved in a project to determine whether a major materials supplier should establish facilities in Mexico to serve its the major automotive assembly businesses in Mexico City, Puebla and elsewhere. I VERY much enjoyed that work, the people I met and the chance to travel around Mexico City.

Greetings,

I believe that the extreme cost of a college education is keeping amny out that woulf normally become engineers. That aside;

I have seen a few ABET acredited programs and I believe that there is something missing in the style of education for engineers. These folks are all prequalified as able to become engineers in the entry standards so why then is the education meant to be a struggle? I have seen a few classes that are constructed to be an unfair struggle not subject instruction. I believe these classes should be modified.

Engineering students are there to have a tool box filled up with engineering things and the quality of there grade point should have something to do with how well they packed the tool box. They should not be struggling to find obscure nuggets in the woods and have thier grades predicated by nugget hunting instead of the class subject. There should be no class designed as a nasty struggle, nasty and unfair classes should be gone and tool box packing should be the standard fare.

Mark Howell

Mark,

You raise some very provocative matters. However, if OK with you, I would like to forego discussion here as I hope this first blog on engineering education will help to highlight current institutions around the world. (Why is it that, as a North American, I know more about European Football than I do about European Schools???) My intent is to open a new blog on the topics you raise within the next few weeks.

Cheers!

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Since this is a personal type of topic I am going to give a personal opinion. I am quite aware that this is like all other personal opinions. Related to posterior portions of the body. Nevertheless, I believe that the North Americans have become somewhat lazy, or complacent. Much like many other great civilizations of yesteryear. The reason that more Engineers are being made elsewhere is because it is a very demanding course and job. Asia has the drive to be rich, India has the drive, and South America and Mexico have or are getting the drive. The US and Canada have lost it. Canada because it was frozen and shattered in the cold and America because so many are "rich" in their own minds and so lack the drive that is essential to compete. Therefore, they turn to Standing Armies and point fingers just as others have done before.

As I was saying, Asia has more people too. I don't know about Europe but I think that the population there is greater too.

P.S. I am an American. In the military. I happen to work for an engineering battalion that builds things.

Thank you for your service to your country and the world community.

While you are entitled to your opinion, I am more interested in sharing quantittive information. In your military service, have you worked with others who have studied at schools around the world? From the figures I shared concerning engineering school enrollments in China, Russia and elsewhere, it does seem that there is a strong impetus to succeed but desire is not sufficient. I have to believe there are also schools, classes, professors and other resources to train these engineers. Where are they? Do they have web sites? Alumni Associations?

"Mechanical engineers build weapons. Civil engineers build targets..."

(Anon)

I recently graduated from what I believe is one of the best engineering schools in the state of Tennessee, that being Tennessee Tech University. I can tell you from living with some guys that were in other majors, they just don't have the drive to actually try in school. They also saw that they could make just as much money as an engineer, maybe not initially but within a couple of years. So they figure why put forth so much effort if the payoff isn't that great. Another reason is they had most everything in life given to them and they didn't want their education to be any different. I also had a friend who had graduated from a technical school in India who had his degree in mechanical engineering that told me that he didn't have to take thermodynamics. I thought that this course was an essential part of the mechanical engineering tool box, but apparently it's not.

Do you know the name of the school in India where your friend studied?

While he may not have taken a class called 'Thermodynamics', he may have covered the material in a Physical Chemistry class or some other forum. While I appreciate your comment that it is a topic that belongs in the Mechanical Engineer's toolbox, I do not believe there is only one educational formula. Once we have a sense of the highly regarded engineering schools around the world, then we can learn more about their scholastic offerings and degree requirements.

yes I too need to know your friend s name and which university he studied. By God s name I have never heard a mechanical engineering not taking "Thermodynamics" as its main subject.

Philippines have many good Engineering Schools. I am an alumnus in one of them, The University of Mindanao.

Some notable schools I can name includes: Ateneo de Davao University, University of Southeastern Philippines, University of the Philippines, Ateneo de Manila, Mapua Institute of Technology, San Carlos University, Siliman University, University of Santo Thomas, De La Salle University, etc...