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Minimum Distance of weld of an insert or flush patch from an existing weld

04/10/2015 1:43 PM

Is there an documentations for the minimum distance for the root of a weld of a insert or flush plate from the root of existing welds? Repairs to BPVC Standards?

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Re: Minimum Distance of weld of an insert or flush patch from an existing weld

04/10/2015 2:57 PM

This is a part of a longer article on a different subject but the issue of distance between welds is common.

In referring to the proximity of butt welds in pipe. This question has been asked many times. The answer is the piping Codes do not provide specific guidance. In this situation, you must use engineering judgment such as, locate the butt welds as far apart as possible to avoid overlapping weld "heat affected zones" and stress concentration effects. For girth weld spacing, a criterion that has been used for many years is: the greater of 2 inches or 4 times the wall thickness.

You might also want to talk to a good Welding Engineer as it could be dependent on the actual welding process. If this is for proximity of weld joints to one another there could be other concerns--again the Welding Engineer could help you.

Just for interest's sake, Australian Standard AS 4458 specifies the following: "The distance between the edge of two circumferential butt welds shall be not less than four times the pipe wall thickness or 30 mm, whichever is the greater, unless the first weld is post weld heat treated (PWHT) before the second weld."

I hope this helps,

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Re: Minimum Distance of weld of an insert or flush patch from an existing weld

04/10/2015 3:37 PM

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Re: Minimum Distance of weld of an insert or flush patch from an existing weld

04/10/2015 9:26 PM

Yes, there is documentation.

Get a copy and read it.

ASME Boiler - Pressure Vessel Code (ASME BPVC) - IHS.com

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Re: Minimum Distance of weld of an insert or flush patch from an existing weld

04/14/2015 10:40 AM

But why in the code does it state that?

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Re: Minimum Distance of weld of an insert or flush patch from an existing weld

04/15/2015 7:49 AM

Dears,

regarding your question, like the guys said the ASME code didn't mentioned a specific value for the distance between longitudinal or circumferential welds.

the good welding practice for welding like "PennPiper" said is not less than four times the pipe wall thickness or 30 mm. Howver if you are talking about the Pressure vessels this distance will be the greater of four times the design thickness or 100 mm.

this was an additional answer only.

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04/19/2015 8:38 AM

for ref.

BS - 2633.

B31.3 interpretation 7.02 file B31-87-039.

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