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Process of Steel Manufacturing

05/13/2015 7:59 AM

We received Steel Plates of ASTM A 572 Gr.65 from Nanjing Iron & Steel Company, China.

ABS Surveyor Cleared All Materials but ONGC Person ask for "Steel manufacturing process" Not mentioned in Mill test certificates.

It is essentials to mentioned "Steel manufacturing process" & "Grain Size"

Kindly advise

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05/13/2015 8:26 AM

Questions about expected corrosion resistance?

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05/13/2015 9:58 AM

"... but ONGC Person ask for "Steel manufacturing process"..." Tell him "Here, let me GOOGLE that for you."

Works here at CR4.

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05/13/2015 10:08 AM

Tell him heat and small.

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Re: Process of Steel Manufacturing

05/13/2015 2:09 PM

So does that mean that <...ONGC Person...> does not know how steel is made nor the effect of grain size? Wikipedia can reveal that; the individual can simply look it up.

Just as fortunately, the CR4 reader can look up what <..ONGC...> means too.

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Re: Process of Steel Manufacturing

05/14/2015 12:08 AM

you can check it on web site of Nanjing Iron & Steel Company,China. Under Plates & Coil Product Page www.njsteel.con.cn

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05/14/2015 12:17 AM

Steel Manufacturing Process as such cannot be mentioned but yes the information regarding 1. Treatment after production, 2. confirmity to the production according to contract document is essential to mention in the certificate.

3. the standards used for production that at end give information of whether the manufactured product complies to the end requirement -

eg1. Cladding

-Cold reduced, hot rolled

BS 1449.1 (production standard)

BS 2989/EN 10142 galvanized formed steel

Grades: Z28 (fy = 280 MPa) Z35 (fy = 350 MPa)

eg2. Plate and Rolled Steel

BS 4360 or EN 10025

{Grade 43 (fy = 275 MPa) {Grade 50 (fy = 335 MPa)

So check whether similar production confirming standards are mentioned in it or not and whether the certificate contains the declaration of the confirmance to production & testing standards.

Grain Size information in Certf depends on: 1.purpose of application i.e end usage eg. structural, static/dynamic application, resistant to rigorous wear/friction

2. Strength of material -whether compressive or elongative strains will be applicable

Mill Test Report has column for grain test, but many times it is kept blank.

The test must be in contract agreement whether to perform Grain Sizing test on every lot or sample lot.

I cant comment the validity of the Mill Report you have, but, you can insist the Manufacturer to disclose the manufacturing process standards & Grain Size, he can give in in form of Declaration on Letter head mentioning the Dispatched Lot reference and confirmity of it w.r.t the Grain size & Processes.

Another thing to be taken care for next time:

Always ask the report format to manuafacturer which he will be delivering along with the product. that will ensure that all the contarct terms agreed reflect in the end Mill report as well as we can derive that product will be incomplience to the requirement stated in contract. After all the Confirming Standards & the Test Report is the only thing that we can believe. I have witness that the the product for marine grade shaft was declared with relavant EN standard & Grain Size but during sample testing in our authorised lab, it failed, so this indicate that the certificate was FAKE or The Lot sent was Wrong or then the sample test size if applicable was not according to required statistical Sample Size requirement.

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05/14/2015 1:38 AM

Dear Sir,

It is clearly mentioned steel manufacturing process as"Normalised Rolling" and "Fully killed".

and If the Steel plates is fully killed than there is no chances that we got unwanted grain size.

Kindly advise.

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05/14/2015 6:30 AM

Are you not familiar with handling PSU inspectors?. Better ask your friends.

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05/14/2015 8:22 AM

Steel Norms have been in evolution for many years now, ASTM, EN (European Norm), etc. In this case, and as EN 10025 requires, the process must be specified if required by customer, or even as a mandatory product paint and designation under EN 10025. I am sure ASTM is similar and even in the 1979 ASTM version, steel manufacturing process should be... basic oxygen, open earth or EAF. This means really a little, because after that you reach the rolling mill where, in this case, grade and other mechanical properties are defined, but yes, via different routes, and also EN requires to specify processes by AR (As Rolled), N (Normalized), etc, and surely in this case to know if a TMCP process has been applied.

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Re: Process of Steel Manufacturing

06/01/2015 6:31 AM

Iron ore is converted to steel via two main steps. The first involves the production of molten iron and the second is that of actual steel manufacture. The details of these steps are outlined below.

http://nzic.org.nz/ChemProcesses/metals/8A.pdf

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Re: Process of Steel Manufacturing

06/01/2015 6:48 AM

As I understood by initial question, you were asking for manufacturing process details (rolling mill), not just the steelmaking process, correct?

So, I repeat, your customer is asking for the type of rolling mill process, once you already provided steel chemical composition.

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