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Gradeability Tyre Slippage and Startability

06/11/2015 7:36 AM

Can someone explain to me how to we calculate gradeability tyre slippage and startability for an automobile? I already am aware of the formula of startability, but I want to know how it is derived, the logic behind it. Startability has to consider the inertial resistance too, so how is that incorporated in the formula?

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Re: Gradeability Tyre Slippage and Startability

06/11/2015 9:26 AM

Try to be more specific in your question. There are sooo many variables that affect your question.

Friction forces cause the vehicle to stop or start. The friction force can be calculated by multiplying the Coefficient of Friction X The Normal Force.

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Re: Gradeability Tyre Slippage and Startability

06/12/2015 1:35 AM

I know all the resistances (rolling and aerodynamic resistances), and also, the tractive effort at wheels, coming from the engine. So, using that, I can calculate the gradeability of the vehicle. But, in order to calculate startability, I need to know the acceleration of my vehicle, which would be lesser than what it would achieve on plane ground. So, I looked up in the internet, and found some formulas that don't require you to enter the value of acceleration, as, they have made certain assumptions, and named them as constants. So, I need to know how is that formula derived? and what are the assumptions.

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Re: Gradeability Tyre Slippage and Startability

06/11/2015 9:40 AM

Start by asking your instructor for help.

Then read about friction, surface area, inertia and different surface's smoothness.

Don't forget to look at how fluids affect traction.

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Re: Gradeability Tyre Slippage and Startability

06/12/2015 1:36 AM

I know all the resistances (rolling and aerodynamic resistances), and also, the tractive effort at wheels, coming from the engine. So, using that, I can calculate the gradeability of the vehicle. But, in order to calculate startability, I need to know the acceleration of my vehicle, which would be lesser than what it would achieve on plane ground. So, I looked up in the internet, and found some formulas that don't require you to enter the value of acceleration, as, they have made certain assumptions, and named them as constants. So, I need to know how is that formula derived? and what are the assumptions.

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Re: Gradeability Tyre Slippage and Startability

06/12/2015 3:45 PM

The proper engineering terms that you can't seem to find are rolling and static/starting friction, everything else is high school physics.

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Re: Gradeability Tyre Slippage and Startability

06/15/2015 12:24 AM

Gads! spring wind up and wheel hop, the bane of hot rodders of the past!!

APPLY HORSE POWER HERE, break something there!

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