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Fuel Savings: Based on Newsletter Challenge (07/17/07)

07/17/2007 4:04 AM

Based on "Seasons, Cars and Fuel: Newsletter Challenge (07/17/07)"

This made me think a bit. Maybe I am showing my lack of knowledge, or ignorance.

I have to travel approximately 140km (87Miles) to and from work every day. This distance is enough for me to think up all sorts of things. The latest was going on about fuel and fuel consumption. Although I did not measure it, it is evident that I get more fuel per $ (Rand in RSA) on colder days than on warmer days. I therefore try to purchase fuel in the mornings on the way to work, rather than on the way home in the afternoons.

So, now the thought. What if you can cool down the fuel as it goes down into your tank, keep it cool there, and then heat it up on the way to the fuel injection. The increase in temperature should make it expand (decrease in density), thus using less fuel per litre consumed. Could that save fuel? I think it will.

If only you could cool the fuel as it comes into the fuel pump (you could pay less for more).

The fuel line could be routed along the engine, heating the fuel inside as it travels. Granted, right when you start everything is cool and no benefit would be there, but after only a few kilometres you should start to heat the fuel.

Wait, maybe I should patent the idea ....

Damn, it is too late. Already pressed the submit button.

Shoot.

Ciao

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Re: Fuel savings: Based on Seasons, Cars and Fuel: Newsletter Challenge (07/17/07)

07/17/2007 6:11 AM

In Australia I believe the temp of the fuel being delivered is taken into concideration, and the price varied according to its temp, not sure of the facts but vaguely remember some fuss about in the news, and I believe the garage owners got there way, it must be the day they lower the fuel price per litre?

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Re: Fuel Savings: Based on Newsletter Challenge (07/17/07)

07/18/2007 3:49 AM

For a set throttle opening, all other things being equal, each injection will pump less energy per volume as the fuel expands due to temperature rise. The vehicle will therefore slow down and you will have to increase throttle opening to maintain the original speed.

As you know the road so well, you will do better by planning your driving pattern well ahead. Look as far ahead as possible to anticipate road conditions, silly drivers interrupting your driving etc. Gently trail the the throttle earlier as you approach junctions, bends and jams, accelerate using about 80% throttle to obtain cruising speed reasonably quickly then consciously lift the throttle to go into cruise mode. If the car has a computer on board you will soon know that you will get about 6 to 7 mpg as you accelerate and 200 to 300 mpg as you trail the throttle. Dont floor the throttle on hills, you will eat fuel as you accelerate up a hill, Trail the throttle increasingly as you approach the brow and cruise downhill. Avoid dual carriageway routes with roundabouts, that can lose you 5 mpg an a trip, and so on. Even a slight decline can reduce your consumption enormously at a steady speed. A slight extra touch of throttle at any road condition sucks up the fuel. Think, if I were a cyclist where would I be using most muscle.

hope this helps

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Re: Fuel Savings: Based on Newsletter Challenge (07/17/07)

07/18/2007 3:59 PM

In Canada all the fuel pumps at gasoline stations have a notice stating that the gas temperature is assumed to be 15 deg C. The flow is measured by volume and not as a mass flow. If you filled up at the coldest part of the day in winter you might get some advantage, but as the tanks are below ground the temperature is probably quite constant.

As for your idea of heating the fuel this has been tried many different ways, with the most common problem being vapour locks if the liquid vaporizes to a gas in the fuel line. You are better off to get the air entering the engine as cold as possible to make it more dense and therefore more Oxygen. The new cars due however have a mass air flow sensor and will deliver more gas to maintain the fuel air ratio for the least pollution.

The best way to improve gas mileage is to modify your driving habits, easy on the gas peddle and coast whenever possible.

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