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Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule Info

11/10/2015 6:33 AM

Gentleman,

I confused for 3051S-superModuleseries transmitter is connected to Foundation fieldbus protocol - itself transmitter manufacture name plate written 4-20mA , so question can we use same Fieldbus protocol transmitter for HART protocol as well ? what could be purpose to have written 4-20mA on manufacturer name plate ?
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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule info

11/10/2015 6:47 AM

Well, I'd have thought that a quick telephone call to the equipment manufacturer would solve this one, then, I'm funny that way.

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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule info

11/10/2015 6:52 AM

Buddy it's manufacturer is Emerson Rosemount, I believe we can't use 3051S super module same transmitter for FF & HART protocol but just wondering if some one did it or any or may be THIS is EUREKKKAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ?
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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule info

11/10/2015 7:47 AM

Do you need special training for using the phone? No-one here is going to do that for you. Now, stop being so bloody lazy, and get on with it!

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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule info

11/11/2015 12:26 AM

no body depends on you or care about you if you not answer here, so why you pretend to be so ugly here ? just stay away from this question - no need your any suggestion
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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule info

11/10/2015 6:58 AM

Interesting subject ....EUREKA......
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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule info

11/10/2015 8:08 PM

What the hell, you are foolishly talking to yourself? REported.

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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule info

11/10/2015 9:03 AM

Back in my days as a rookie. I only knew Honeywell and Yamatake is using HART, I never knew Rosemount is also using the protocol.

Do not be confused, the transmitter use dual protocols, you could use either HART or analog 4-20mA.

Settings, diagnostics and calibration are usually communicated through HART protocol, it can be used for monitoring and transmission of data also.

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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule Info

11/10/2015 7:58 PM

1) >can we use same Fieldbus protocol transmitter for HART protocol as well ?

Foundation Fieldbus and HART/4-20mA protocols are mutually exclusive and cannot be used on the same device.

2) >what could be purpose to have written 4-20mA on manufacturer name plate ?

- someone swapped communication cards (?)

- someone swapped housing and/or SS label (?)

- misinterpretation of the model code, for instance, Rosemount uses the part number code AO1 for "Foundation Fieldbus Advanced Control Function Block Suite", and most people associate the letters AO with 'analog output'.

- it really is 4-20mA, not Foundation Fieldbus

3) >I never knew Rosemount is also using the protocol.

Rosemount was the original major promoter of HART.

4) > the transmitter use dual protocols, you could use either HART or analog 4-20mA.

No industrial field transmitter in this commercial category uses simultaneous 'dual protocols'. The choice is either/or, not both.
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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule Info

11/11/2015 12:31 AM

Thanks for your kind reply,( below detail I found from manual)

Scalable SuperModule®

Platform -

The 3051S powers the PlantWeb®

architecture by delivering the industry's best

field intelligence with advanced diagnostics

for HART and FOUNDATION fieldbus. The

Scalable SuperModule Platform provides a

foundation for integrated pressure, flow, and

level solutions. It allows you to customize performance,

functionality, diagnostics, and process connections for

your expanding application requirements.
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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule Info

11/11/2015 8:23 AM

There are numerous engineering and marketing reasons why field transmitters have only one comm protocol.

Your statement refers to advanced diagnostics being available for either (both) HART or FF. That means any given model in the 3051S super Module series is capable of advanced diagnostics, it does not mean both comm protocols are available in the same device.

The final arbiter of what is actually available is the price list, but I don't have access to that, so the next best is the spec (product data) sheet with the model selection guide.

The field in the part number for the 'comm protocol' is called the "transmitter output" field.

Only one, single selection is possible. Take your pick, but you get only one choice.

In the sample typical model number, A, the 4-20mA HART is selected:
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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule Info

11/11/2015 11:01 AM

Good answer!

This post is definitely not "Off Topic" and deserves much higher ratings.

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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule Info

11/17/2015 11:35 AM

Missed one - the FFB unit has a different housing called the WebEx housing - someone switched the housings. (???)

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Re: Rosemount 3051S -SuperModule Info

11/12/2015 3:30 AM

Thanks to guys who share their experience with MY question,

so it's been confirmed until no one had made electronic module for any pressure-temp-control valve ( field device that will allow end user to utilize same device for fieldbus & HART application ..there is no such common device that can be used for both application ....we have to choose it - purchase it separately
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