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Does it Matter How Much Matter There is?

12/06/2015 3:10 PM

..."The size of an atom is governed by the average location of its electrons. Nuclei are around 100,000 times smaller than the atoms they're housed in. If the nucleus were the size of a peanut, the atom would be about the size of a baseball stadium. If we lost all the dead space inside our atoms, we would each be able to fit into a particle of lead dust, and the entire human race would fit into the volume of a sugar cube.

As you might guess, these spaced-out particles make up only a tiny portion of your mass. The protons and neutrons inside of an atom's nucleus are each made up of three quarks. The mass of the quarks, which comes from their interaction with the Higgs field, accounts for just a few percent of the mass of a proton or neutron. Gluons, carriers of the strong nuclear force that holds these quarks together, are completely massless.

If your mass doesn't come from the masses of these particles, where does it come from? Energy. Scientists believe that almost all of your body's mass comes from the kinetic energy of the quarks and the binding energy of the gluons."...

"Your body is a small-scale mine of radioactive particles. You receive an annual 40-millirem dose from the natural radioactivity originating inside of you. That's the same amount of radiation you'd be exposed to from having four chest X-rays. Your radiation dose level can go up by one or two millirem for every eight hours you spend sleeping next to your similarly radioactive loved one.

You emit radiation because many of the foods you eat, the beverages you drink and even the air you breathe contain radionuclides such as Potassium-40 and Carbon-14. They are incorporated into your molecules and eventually decay and produce radiation in your body.

When Potassium-40 decays, it releases a positron, the electron's antimatter twin, so you also contain a small amount of antimatter. The average human produces more than 4000 positrons per day, about 180 per hour. But it's not long before these positrons bump into your electrons and annihilate into radiation in the form of gamma rays."

"The radioactivity born inside your body is only a fraction of the radiation you naturally (and harmlessly) come in contact with on an everyday basis. The average American receives a radiation dose of about 620 millirem every year. The food you eat, the house you live in and the rocks and soil you walk on all expose you to low levels of radioactivity. Just eating a Brazil nut or going to the dentist can up your radiation dose level by a few millirem. Smoking cigarettes can increase it up to 16,000 millirem.

Cosmic rays, high-energy radiation from outer space, constantly smack into our atmosphere. There, they collide with other nuclei and produce mesons, many of which decay into particles such as muons and neutrinos. All of these shower down on the surface of the Earth and pass through you at a rate of about 10 per second. They add about 27 millirem to your yearly dose of radiation. These cosmic particles can sometimes disrupt our genetics, causing subtle mutations, and may be a contributing factor in evolution.

In addition to bombarding us with photons that dictate the way we see the world around us, our sun also releases an onslaught of particles called neutrinos. Neutrinos are constant visitors in your body, zipping through at a rate of nearly 100 trillion every second. Aside from the sun, neutrinos stream out from other sources, including nuclear reactions in other stars and on our own planet.

Many neutrinos have been around since the first few seconds of the early universe, outdating even your own atoms. But these particles are so weakly interacting that they pass right through you, leaving no sign of their visit.

You are also likely facing a constant shower of particles of dark matter. Dark matter doesn't emit, reflect or absorb light, making it quite hard to detect, yet scientists think it makes up about 80 percent of the matter in the universe.

Looking at the density of dark matter throughout the universe, scientists calculate that hundreds of thousands of these particles might be passing through you every second, colliding with your atoms about once a minute. But dark matter doesn't interact very strongly with the matter you're made of, so they are unlikely to have any noticeable effects on your body."

http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/the-particle-physics-of-you

What about dark matter?

http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/archive?topic=3362

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12/06/2015 3:14 PM

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12/06/2015 5:12 PM

A little heavy for a Monday morning, especially for this mutating, radioactive mass of empty space.

How about an Engineering joke instead? Lets see........

"Two Neutrinos walk into a bar...... and pass right through it."

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12/06/2015 5:24 PM

"Once upon a time there were three men: a doctor, a city planner, and an engineer. For some reason all three offended the king and were sentenced to die on the same day.

The day of the execution arrived, and the doctor was led up to the guillotine. As he strapped the doctor to the guillotine, the executioner asked, "Head up or head down?"

"Head up," said the doctor.

"Blindfold or no blindfold?"

"No blindfold."

So the executioner raised the axe, and z-z-z-z-ing! Down came the blade--and stopped barely an inch above the doctor's neck. Well, the law stated that if an execution didn't succeed the first time the prisoner had to be released, so the doctor was set free.

Then the city planner was led up to the guillotine.

"Head up or head down?" said the executioner.

"Head up."

"Blindfold or no blindfold?"

"No blindfold."

So the executioner raised his axe, and z-z-z-z-ing! Down came the blade--and stopped an inch above the planner's neck. Well, the law stated that if the execution didn't succeed the first time the prisoner had to be released, so the planner was set free.

Finally the engineer was led up to the guillotine.

"Head up or head down?"

"Head up."

"Blindfold or no blindfold?"

"No blindfold."

So the executioner raised his axe, but before he could cut the rope, the engineer yelled out:

"WAIT! I see what the problem is!"

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12/06/2015 9:12 PM

An old one, but a good one. GA

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12/08/2015 2:53 PM

I prefer to tell it as a Priest, a Gambler, and an Engineer. Makes for better 'color text.' (Blindfolds are never mentioned in my version.)

The priest: "I would prefer to be beheaded face up, so that my last view of this word will be the heavens that I know the Lord will welcome be into."

The gambler: "I ain't religious, but after seeing the padre walk, I'll go for face-up too."

The engineer: "Why break up a growing pattern? I'll also do face up." "Wait up, I think I see the problem."

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12/08/2015 6:18 PM

Isn't that situation akin to the aristocrat bravely opting to go face up at the guillotine during the French Revolution.......but here a little known rule that you would be pardoned if the guillotine failed to drop 3 times.

In this instance it failed twice and was about to be released the third time when the victim cried out "Stop. Stop. I am an engineer. I can see whats wrong. I can fix it...!"

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12/09/2015 9:09 AM

So many variations, and they all make me chuckle...

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12/09/2015 3:18 PM

He never said - he fixed it - and it worked.....

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12/09/2015 4:25 PM

I always thought the moral of the story was "It's good to love what you do, but don't go losing your head over it."

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12/09/2015 12:58 PM

I'm still waiting for the punch line! What was wrong with the guillotine?

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12/07/2015 7:50 AM

....one says 'ouch' - it was an iron bar....

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12/07/2015 1:12 PM

They were Neutrinos, the iron bar may as well have been solid diamond 2 miles thick.

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12/06/2015 5:52 PM

Try telling that to the anti-nuclear power contingent. "Don't blind me with science!"

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12/06/2015 5:59 PM

I hope this doesn't lead to a "matter tax".

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12/06/2015 8:55 PM

Don't give them ideas....

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12/07/2015 12:31 AM

Pretty heavy stuff for an old classical physicist to absorb... Much of it goes right on through me!

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12/07/2015 2:07 AM

Aha! Now I understand what they mean, when they say "Let the Force Be With You".

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12/07/2015 8:42 AM

I think the answer might elude us because a reaction - the effect of a cause - could occur on a timescale that is impossible for us humans to perceive - thus needing machines not yet invented for the purpose.

The event happens so fast that we don't see it, or so slow that we die of old age before it happens.

For instance, suppose gravity is a wave pulsating at a frequency beyond belief, out of step with time that also pulsates, both appearing absolutely stead (constant) such that measurements assumed in-phase - but unknowingly are not. A sort of Pauli exclusion.

At the moment my flippant view is that dark matter is a 'coefficient' that scientists want others to drop into opposing formulas to make them match their own.

Supporters of common-core maths might be able to lead the way......

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12/07/2015 9:27 AM

Very interesting. Not much new for me, but I have a question. What was in your coffee?

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12/07/2015 9:46 AM

And my mom was worried about me sitting too close to the TV....

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12/07/2015 1:51 PM

So what you are saying is: Matter matters especially when it comes to matters of the heart or if we want to know what is the matter with the matter we are made or if what is going on within our environmental matter matters?

Thanks for the great post and links!

Do you suppose black holes are a high concentration of dark matter?

Or are they are the result of a high concentration of positrons colliding with a super sized electron field?

What about the energy created from the reaction of a black hole consuming a star?

Where does the energy given off by the reaction go?

Is it absorbed by the black hole into another dimension that we cannot yet see?

Or completely consumed/exhausted by the reaction?

The pictures of this phenomenon are fascinating and they peak my interest severely.

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12/07/2015 2:14 PM

Well I find it interesting to imagine that if most mass is kinetic energy it gives some insight into the nature of the gravity effect and the relationship between mass and energy...this would mean that movement more than anything, creates attraction...and what is the nature of the mass that is not kinetic...and then what is the nature of a massless particle, how is it possible...? Can there be a massless structure?

"In particle physics, a massless particle is a particle whose invariant mass is theoretically zero. As of 2015 the two known massless particles were gauge bosons: the photon (carrier of electromagnetism) and the gluon (carrier of the strong force)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massless_particle

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12/10/2015 11:28 AM

"In particle physics, a massless particle is a particle whose invariant mass is theoretically zero."

Meaning that even though we cannot physically see it nor can we measure the value of it's mass, the particle none-the-less, exerts a force that affects anything and everything it comes into contact with or passes near to?

I remember part of an Albert Einstein statement something akin to; "There are dimensions within dimensions and invisible forces that we as humans, cannot possibly conceive to understand."

I know there was a very dramatic event recorded rather recently in Texas during a controlled particle collision wherein the two particles simply disintegrated into thin air with no residual energy and no evidence of residual mass from either particle.

I have not heard or read any follow up on what was the final thesis of the event but given the reaction from the director of operations I do not think the results will ever be released for general public knowledge.

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12/10/2015 9:54 AM

"peak my interest" = "This is the highest my interest goes; it's downhill from here..."

"pique my interest" = "This stimulates my interest...", or "This makes me want to learn more..."

I believe you meant the latter.

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12/10/2015 11:12 AM

Thanks for the grammatical correction and clarification.

You are correct.

It piques my interest in that the more I see and read about what is "out there" the more interested I get.

So much so that it could easily become an obsession with me.

I truly believe we are just now on the edge of breakthroughs in the current knowledge of physics that will alter life as we know it so much so, that what is soon to be discovered will be way beyond most human's ability to comprehend.

The older I get the smaller I realize humans really are especially when compared to the universe and that which controls it.

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12/10/2015 12:04 PM

"what is soon to be discovered will be way beyond most human's ability to comprehend."

Heck, that's already true, even for a guy who has been studying physics one way or another for about 70 years! I'm quite well aware of (at least some of) my limitations! There are sooo many areas where current developments are totally beyond my comprehension...

...but that does not prevent me from trying!

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Yes, I wholeheartedly agree.

My current grasp on Physics and many other subjects is not anywhere near where I would like for it to be.

Most of my awake hours are spent at work however I do not let a day go by without learning something or reviewing at least part of a theory, regulation, guideline, or other good information.

Funny how the older I get the more I realize that I do not know and how severely limited we as humans in this world really are.

I used to have pretty much a photographic memory but it was severely impacted when I made a non-fatal but life changing contact with 13,800VAC while testing a large transformer at a remote power generation facility.

My sweetheart wife told me quite a while back; "I know it is crushing for you not to be able to remember like you used to but you are closer now to being a "normal" human being than you have ever been. It is not nearly as difficult to live with you as it was before your accident. Do you know how intimidating it is to have your spouse recite both sides of a conversation word-for-word after several weeks or in your case several months or years? Well I do and it's not fun. After all us women need our "plausible deniability" in order to survive."

She is my very best friend and I owe her a debt I cannot pay for taking care of me through all I have suffered since the accident.

While I struggle at times I shall never give up my search for knowledge and understanding.

"They are going to have to pry my knowledge out of my cold, dead head."

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12/11/2015 11:52 AM

In which area of physics do you think his might be? Could it be biology. A human 6th sense that works? Telepathy that works? Intuition that works - or is it a scientific breakthrough providing a quantum leap stepping stone in one area to advance the fringe of current knowledge everywhere.

Or is it something mundane like rejecting Einstein's C is a maximum. Or accepting 0/0 or ∞/∞ = 1. I don't know myself.

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12/11/2015 3:39 PM

I think the biggest breakthroughs will be manifested in particle analysis and behavior.

My conclusion is due to the fairly recent collider experiment in Texas wherein both of the accelerated particles simple vanished without evidence of any residual energy not just once but several times.

I am certain there will be extreme advancements in modes of transportation/propulsion, energy generation, stored energy, energy creation, and weaponry.

I know that there are humans that have extreme capability for telepathy and intuition as I have met some that are downright scary but very few have been really high IQ.

Have you ever experienced De Ja Vu? (correct spelling?)

I have done so and knowing what is going to happen before it does is very puzzling to me. If we are just simple organisms how could this phenomenon ever happen?

Our current laws of math indicate that any quantity divided by itself is equal to "1" however to me this is an abstract equation when "0" is applied.

If 0 - 0 = 0 and 0/0 = 1 the result is still "0" (nothing) because the "1" represents the value of one each "0". Yes?

Following this pattern of logic;

1) Subtracting "0" from any number yields the original number therefore "0" has no intrinsic effective value in this case. Yes?

2) Multiplying any number/value by "0" yields "0" so in this case the "0" has a very dramatic affect on the original value. Yes?

3) Therefore; How is it possible that dividing "0" by "0" can yield anything other than a real value of "0"?

As far as infinity goes I do not believe any human has ever lived long enough to absolutely experience or witness the results of any hypothesis that applies infinity to an equation or theory.

Since we humans have a finite worldly existence it is very hard for many to envision or accept this world may well be just the first step of many steps to a higher state of intelligence and capability.

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12/12/2015 3:31 PM

Thanks. Could chat for hours. No argument with 0 and ∞.

I am not involved in any work that advances science, so it's wait and see for me.

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12/07/2015 11:00 PM

'...Your radiation dose level can go up by one or two millirem for every eight hours you spend sleeping next to your similarly radioactive loved one. ...'

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So sleeping beside a loved one nightly results in an additional 365 to 730 millirem dose every year!

Talk about unhealthy relationships!

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Might want to take some of the claims in the article with a grain of salt (preferably comprised of stable isotopes).

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..."Typically background radiation in the United States averages 300mrem/yr, or 34 microrem/hr. The NRC specifications is for radiation above this34 urem/hr background radiation."
..."Common Radiation Exposure (General Population)

Exposure SourceDose(conventional)Dose (SI)
Flight from LA to NY1.5 mrem.015 mSv
Dental X-ray9 mrem.09 mSv
Chest X-ray10 mrem0.1 mSv
Mammogram70 mrem0.7 mSv
Background Radiation620 mrem/year6.2 mSv/year

Background radiation consists of three sources; Cosmic radiation from the sun
and stars. Terrestrial radiation from low levels of uranium, thorium, and their
decay products in the soil, air and water. Internal radiation from radioactive
potassium-40, carbon-14, lead-210, and other isotopes found inside our bodies."

http://www.imagesco.com/geiger/radiation-safety.html

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12/10/2015 9:25 AM

Just the point I was making. Receiving an additional millirem or two for each 8 hours you sleep beside someone is too high by a couple of orders of magnitude.

....unless, of course, the person you are sleeping beside is really hot... something beyond supermodel hot. Supercritical could work.

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12/10/2015 1:59 PM

Great, something else for us Engineers to say that sets us apart from others (as if we didn't need anything more).

"That girl I went out with was so hot, she peaked at 0.2 mrem!!"

"No way, show me the measurements!"

"Here they are.... You can see from the data at exactly 7:42PM last night...."

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Re: Does it Matter How Much Matter There is?

12/10/2015 3:09 PM

Yep!

When they're hot, you're hot.

When they're not, you're not.

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Re: Does it Matter How Much Matter There is?

12/12/2015 7:47 PM
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