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Difference between Fluke 709H and Fluke 754

12/31/2015 6:21 AM

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Hope that you are fine. Please any one can tell me the difference between Fluke 709 H and Fluke 754. Both are hart enabled. Fluke 709 H did not communicate with some instruments so I rejected it for Fluke 754. But now supplier is saying that Fluke 709 H is suitable for all the hart enabled instruments. Any one having experience please share.

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Re: Difference between Fluke 709H and Fluke 754

12/31/2015 9:16 AM

Did you ring Fluke and ask, Mildred? That's what I'd do, then I'm funny that way.

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Re: Difference between Fluke 709H and Fluke 754

12/31/2015 9:47 AM

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Re: Difference between Fluke 709H and Fluke 754

12/31/2015 10:31 AM

Read the manuals.

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Re: Difference between Fluke 709H and Fluke 754

12/31/2015 1:58 PM

Be sure to read the factory issued instruction manual thoroughly and comply with all instructions.

If you are still having problems with the FLUKE 709 H meter not communicating then the problem is most likely that you do not have enough resistance in series with the device and the meter sensing lead.

Many HART capable devices require at least 250 ohms of resistance in series between the device and the meter lead with some devices requiring 500 ohms or more in order to communicate.

Start with 250 ohms in series and if there is not any communications add another 250 ohm resistor in series to attain 500 ohms then keep adding 250 ohms in series until you reach 1K ohms.

If at 1K ohms the meter will still not communicate, then the meter is not configured correctly, or it is not connected correctly, or the meter is bad.

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Re: Difference between Fluke 709H and Fluke 754

12/31/2015 2:22 PM

From memory, the 709H used only HART common and universal practice commands, it could not interpret a DD file (no way to load a DD into it).

The 754 can handle DD files, but I don't know whether you can add/delete or whether you're stuck with the factory installed DD's.

I'm sure there are other differences, but I'm not professional shopper, you'll have to read the spec sheets or manuals.

To add to Shockiscan's excellent reply on HART connection problems - I doubt the 754 will connect to any device the 709 would not connect to under identical circumstances. If the 709 won't connect; the 754 won't either.

In addition to the lack of adequate loop resistance, the other reasons HART connections fail are

- attempting HART connections across the power supply

- no DC loop power to the transmitter (communicator does not power the transmitter)

-attempting to make a change via HART to a write-protected HART device

- noisy power supply (excessive ripple) faults HART comm

- someone put the communicator's target address at something other than zero

- attempting to talk HART to a transmitter that is equipped for Profibus, Foundation Fieldbus, Honeywell DE, Modbus or some other protocol

- attempting to talk HART to a HART device on which HART has been disabled (typically for security reasons).

- bad electrical connection due to corrosion or mechanical problem with the communicator/calibrator's spring clips.

- attempting to talk HART to a HART device at connection point where a non-HART device, like a loop powered indicator, strips out the HART signal.

None of the issues above will be resolved by getting a more sophisticated HART communicator/calibrator.

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