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High No-Load Current on Transformers

03/15/2016 1:42 AM

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I am failing to get a solution/ Explanation regarding this scenario. We manufacture Distribution and Power Transformers, Mostly all our transformers during No-load test the current is below 5% of the rated. Only in cases of small size Transformers you see the %ge going as high as +6%. On 3MVA 33/0.4kV or 11/0.4kV Dyn11 transformer the no-load currents are below 1% mostly even 0.6%. However when we do 3mVA, 2,5MVA or any other rating with voltage ratio of 11/33kV Step-up or 33/11kV the no-load currents are above 26%. Have referenced with previously done designs and they have all been tested as btwn 25 - 27%. Now we have a customer who is argueing that the no-load should be below 5%. Checked IEC it says the no-load current should be within +30% of design value. Why are we getting high no-load currents on 33/11 and 11/33kV Transformers ??? Please assist if you have faced this problem or have the know how.

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Re: High No-Load Current on Transformers

03/15/2016 2:41 AM

What is the bases for the 100%?

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Re: High No-Load Current on Transformers

03/15/2016 2:44 AM

No load currents are typically non-sinusoidal and full of harmonics.

Any internal fault will greatly amplify those harmonics with an increase in no load current.

A primary winding fault will generally increase total harmonic distortion (THD) and increase the value of no load current.

A secondary fault will just increase no load current.

A core fault will generally increase THD of the output with no corresponding increase in no load current.

Surely a manufacturer of such equipment would be well aware of the causes of erroneous behaviour in their products

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Re: High No-Load Current on Transformers

03/15/2016 12:26 PM

Look at http:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer

It actually discusses No Load losses with some detail.

Variations in how the cores are constructed might explain away this concern.

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Re: High No-Load Current on Transformers

03/15/2016 4:08 PM

No-load losses tend to be almost exclusively due to magnetizing current current, so the thing you should be looking at is how the cores for the high loss transformers differ from the normal loss ones.

You have to examine things that affect the magnetic path; i.e., the type of steel, the flux density, how the laminations are formed, trimmed, insulated, stacked, etc., how the core is shaped, clamped, bonded, grounded, etc., the positioning of the windings, the leads/interconnections, the type of fasteners, their positioning/insulation, are there any unintended magnetic paths/short circuits, hidden eddy current paths, even the material of the tank, the positioning of the phase leads/bushings, etc., etc.

Also remember that any losses manifest themselves as heat/hot spots, so you may find that untanking a unit and and doing a thermal scan may help pinpoint where the excess losses are occurring.

All this presupposes that you have done all the necessary steps to ensure that the transformer design and construction is correct.

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Re: High No-Load Current on Transformers

03/16/2016 11:24 AM

I believe RAMConsult is on the correct pathway to explaining your issue with your transformers. I was going to say something that equates to a parallel capacitance to the primary or secondary, but other aspects of field saturation may have more to do with this, in terms of parasitic eddy currents.

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