Augment Heart Failure Thread

Ahh. Hope at last. I don't bother wishing luck to those who think they are going to pray their way out of medical issues.

It is good to see that biology is being taken as seriously as engineering for a change.

That may be true when the field of medicine becomes a science!

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Have you been watching those old reruns of Star Trek with their "scientific" instruments? Are you aware of the trials that medicines have to go through for approval to the general public?

Statistical analysis is a science in and of itself. No trials of medications, procedures, or diagnostics can make it into practice without some rigorous science. Notice, that was rigorous and not religious science. The last two words are utter nonsense when spoken together.

Since you don't seem to think that medicine is a science, I'm curious to know your definition of science. Perhaps that is where the error lies.

Based on 35 years of involvement in clinical as well as research laboratory settings! The practice and application of medicine involving human physiology is what I labeled as an Art![\p]

The tools, approaches and equipment used in various practices may have been all based on science or scientific methodologies, but the medical field in itself is not an exact science when compared to other sciences as physics, chemistry, etc.![\p]

Although our present understanding of the human physiology which can be all represented using science, thru electrically, mechanically, chemically, etc., representations, it still is incomplete! In my perspective the medical field have a long way to go, to at least develop and achieve some sort of accuracy and consistency in its applications!

In my perspective the medical field have a long way to go, to at least develop and achieve some sort of accuracy and consistency in its applications!
So then, if I understand what you are saying, the medical field is inferior because everybody is the same and therefore the Medical Field is lagging?
It might have started that way 2.5 million years ago, in central Africa, but things have changed.
Or is it the individual's fault that they didn't respond to some medication correctly?

When the time comes where medical practitioners can give / prescribe the proper medication(s) that will match exactly a particular illness /ailment. When a patient's DNA is used as a tool, as an integral part of the diagnostic and therapeutic phase of the patient care! When pharmacist can mix the prescribed medication or drugs are manufactured based on DNAs! That is the time when the practice of medicine becomes a science!

]Presently I would say the practice is still a big guessing game for most, a hit or miss kind of thing of experiments with patients being used as guinea pig! The same thing thing can be said with vaccines and other therapeutic drugs! Pharma companies is a booming bussiness.. A lot more advanced medical instrumentations are available in Europe yet they can't be used here due to the bureaucratic and political barriers set by the govt.

This scenario pretty much resembles a game hunting situation where a hunter uses a shotgun aiming up at the sky and hoping one of the pellets will be lucky to hit and down a bird! Akin to prescribing a medication and hoping it will take care of a supposed patient's ailment!

As compared to an expert hunter that uses a rifle or a bow 'n arrow in hunting, taking down Individual prey or whatever ailment there is! Thus causing no harm to any unintended target!

" Notice, that was rigorous and not religious ....." I always thought Rigor mortis was the final out-come