Ever since I can remember in engineering we seem to be progressing to the point where engineers are becoming a thing of the past. Water reticulation was the first point of departure the last point was the computer. The first freed the population from the daily grind of fetching water and cleaning sewage out and reduced the incidence of disease the second allowed people access to a tool that could speed up there thinking countless times and a virtual tryout on all sorts as well as an instant communication tool. Engineers will, no doubt, soon reach a natural headcount world wide, by this I do not mean machine fixers, I mean those who turn ideas into reality through and by the use of technology. A window on this is the reduction of (in)flight engineers where the insurance companies now do not consider it a safety requirement to carry one. So what if any are the core disciplines that we must retain that cannot be done by, shall we say, the none technically minded, or that cannot be computerise?