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AVR Question

09/11/2016 1:53 PM

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in automatic voltage regulator why we need generator current signal additional to

out voltage signal ,is the generator voltage signal not enough,i know the AVR

regulate the out voltage for generator therefor its need to observe the out voltage

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09/11/2016 2:00 PM

Probably for cross current compensation. If two generators are paralleled, if the voltages are not set equal, reactive current flows between them. The current sense compensates for this.

http://www.pecplc.com/index.php/articles/control-of-synchronous-generators-with-droop-and-cross-current-compensation

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09/11/2016 7:31 PM

In addition to cross current compensation, CTs provide intelligence to the AVR for Droop Compensation, Line Drop Compensation, Power Factor Control, Minimum and Maximum Excitation Limiter(s), and Reactive Current Control, plus other control functions.

The type of excitation system also plays a role, some systems actually use CTs to provide the a portion of the excitation power.

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09/12/2016 12:01 AM

Most likely for just a plain voltage regulator to allow the user to model the voltage at a remote point, without having to sense the voltage at that remote point. (Line Drop Compensation). The user adjusts based on line X & R estimates, or actually measures the voltage at the remote point while at some part or full load, and enters the impedance that gives them the desired voltage at the remote site.

Also, during fault conditions, it is desirable for a generator to produce enough current to trip overcurrent relays. If the generator has SCTs, saturable current transformers typical of a static excitation system (per above), these provide excitation during large current flows in the generator stator circuit (stator current transformed into large field currents), but probably not the CT circuits the OP is referring to.

It is possible on a machine with perhaps a rotating exciter, the field excitation could be boosted quickly (see field forcing) during times of large current and low voltage, to ensure you supply enough current to trip protective relays outside of the generator zone, in a timely manner. The generator overcurrent relays with voltage restraint (51V) work to allow this large current to be maintained longer if the low voltage associated with a fault is sensed. The faster the external fault is cleared, the less stress on your rotating machine

These items should be explained in the AVR manual, along with the methods to set up the appropriate adjustments that go along with the sensing circuits. It's quite possible that the need for the current compensation does not apply to your particular installation.

A block diagram of the regulator will show what those values are used for, perhaps in the technical manual you must ask for separately, often.

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09/12/2016 4:56 AM

Are you talking about automobile DC generators (also known as dynamos)?

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09/13/2016 11:13 AM

You haven't been back. Is it an automotive DC generator (dynamo) or something like a standby diesel AC generator?

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