Asking an International Engineering Management Question Here

Maybe I'm fortunate, but I don't recall in my career ever having been bullied. I've maybe had a difference of opinion and worked for a boss who micromanaged, but never "bullied".

you can't teach or legislate class.

Teddy Roosevelt is spinning in his grave! Some of the great engineering achievements are simply, Bully!

No one is seriously advocating bullying tactics in management. Some people may think it works for them, but I would expect their organization to exhibit the loyalty of a fruit fly.

How long before it is illegal to use bullying tactics in the interrogation room? Is it already a big no-no? At least lying is popular in certain government circles.

Not sure what you mean regarding "class". It seems to me that any sort of negative behavior is now under extreme scrutiny, unless you run for president and win.

Behavior is now legislated with severe punishment for having a voice of significance.

The natural response will be to get on board with the cliche, "Leaders who do not listen are soon surrounded by people who don't speak!"

Such is life.

As uncivilized as the US has become recently, I can't imagine professionals acting this way.

Joe six pack who runs a ditch digging crew, may use intimidation.

" Joe six-pack who runs a ditch digging crew may use intimidation ".

Funny thing happened the other day, I just happened to be talking to Joe,

and he said the exact same thing,,

about Suits.

Go figure.

It's so hard to definitively and clearly define bullying that any attempts at this kind of legislation will either be totally toothless or it will become a 'tool' for lawyers to extract all kinds money from corporations (and the People). Either way, it's a waste of time and potentially a colossal waste of money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it

I think the lawyers are lining up for all kinds of lawsuits regarding this bullying problem. It is not yet illegal in the USA to use bullying tactics in order to create a hostile work environment. It is at least four times more prevalent than sexual harassment and now we have a president elect that won using both sins.

Clearly, I am feeling a little brow beaten. It isn't the first time and I learned the unwritten rules back then but I still don't care for it.

Dogs get better treatment than creative engineers.

Take control of the situation...don't be a victim...

http://www.workplacebullying.org/individuals/solutions/wbi-action-plan/

Thanks for the link Solar Eagle. I have to recommend against any such action as it is extremely dangerous for a career in engineering. I was shocked to learn that most USA companies use lawyers as their head of personnel to cover their butt.

I don't like lawyers. They are the only profession where they get paid to lie. That places such a bias of skill against the workforce that it is overwhelming. Taking control of the situation is a sure way to become unemployable.

Better to be a victim than unemployed.

Can you post the names of the " civilized " countries, that way, the ones that aren't, will know who they are.

In my case the bullying is tied to a forty year old concept that has been taken advantage in some seriously ugly ways. We use "Goals and Objectives" supposedly to track performance and thereby justify the distribution of raises.

After being rated as a top performer for two years in a row, I have been subjected to additional work with no respect to the expected time frame causing repeated cases of just missing the goal. This manipulation goes unchecked and any rebuke is taken as a hostile response. It is just wrong, but it provides an avenue for limiting how much money the company has to shell out for raises. And, they think that we can't see it for what it is. What a scam.

Yep, follow the money.

There's no need to outlaw come-uppance either, then.

Not sure what that means. Solar Eagle hit the nail on the head with his link. I actually found it 3 nights ago.

Perhaps you are referring to the attitude displayed more often by royalty or wealthy people who thinks their poo has no odor?