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Fog or Mist

01/02/2017 7:31 PM

While I am well aware of the impact of temperatures (dry bulb and wet bulb) on moisture content in the atmosphere, I am wondering what terminology (and what technical definitions) meteorologists use to characterize the difference between fog and mist. Is there a specification they are using for difference in droplet size of fog versus mist or what?

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Re: Fog or Mist

01/02/2017 7:51 PM

Wiki says, "The only difference between mist and fog is visibility.[1] The phenomenon is called fog if the visibility is one kilometre (1,100 yards) or less. In the UK the definition of fog is visibility less than 100 metres (for driving purposes, UK Highway Code rule 226),[2] while for pilots the distance is one kilometre. Otherwise it is known as mist.

Mist makes a beam of light visible from the side via refraction and reflection on the suspended water droplets.

"Scotch mist" is a light steady drizzle."

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01/02/2017 7:56 PM

..."mist

A suspension in the air consisting of an aggregate of microscopic water droplets or wet hygroscopic particles (of diameter not less than 0.5 mm or 0.02 in.), reducing the visibility at the earth's surface to not less than 1km.
The term mist is used in weather reports when there is such obscurity and the associated visibility is 1000 m or more, and the corresponding relative humidity is 95% or more, but is generally lower than 100%. These hydrometeors form a thin greyish veil that covers the landscape. It also reduces visibility, but to a lesser extent than fog.

fog

Water droplets suspended in the atmosphere in the vicinity the earth's surface that affect visibility.
According to international definition, fog reduces visibility below 1km. Fog differs from cloud only in that the base of fog is at the earth's surface while clouds are above the surface. When composed of ice crystals, it is termed ice fog. Visibility reduction in fog depends on concentration of cloud condensation nuclei and the resulting distribution of droplet sizes. Patchy fog may also occur, particularly where air of different temperature and moisture content is interacting, which sometimes make these definitions difficult to apply in practice. Fogs of all types originate when the temperature and dewpoint of the air become identical (or nearly so). This may occur through cooling of the air to a little beyond its dewpoint (producing advection fog, radiation fog or upslope fog), or by adding moisture and thereby elevating the dewpoint (producing steam fog or frontal fog). Fog seldom forms when the dewpoint spread is greater than 4°F. According to U.S. weather observing practice, fog that hides less than 0.6 of the sky is called ground fog. If fog is so shallow that it is not an obstruction to vision at a height of 6 ft above the surface, it is called simply shallow fog. In aviation weather observations fog is encoded F, and ground fog GF. Fog is easily distinguished from haze by its higher relative humidity (near 100%, having physiologically appreciable dampness) and gray color. Haze does not contain activated droplets larger than the critical size according to Köhler theory. Mist may be considered an intermediate between fog and haze; its particles are smaller (a few μm maximum) in size, it has lower relative humidity than fog, and does not obstruct visibility to the same extent. There is no distinct line, however, between any of these categories. Near industrial areas, fog is often mixed with smoke, and this combination has been known as smog. However, fog droplets are usually absent in photochemical smog, which only contains unactivated haze droplets.

haze

Particles suspended in air, reducing visibility by scattering light; often a mixture of aerosols and photochemical smog.
Many aerosols increase in size with increasing relative humidity due to deliquescence, drastically decreasing visibility. On Köhler curve plots of saturation relative humidity versus aerosol particle radius, equilibrium haze particles are to the left of the peak, while growing cloud droplets are to the right. Many haze formations are caused by the presence of an abundance of condensation nuclei which may grow in size, due to a variety of causes, and become mist, fog, or cloud. Distinction is sometimes drawn between dry haze and damp haze, largely on the basis of differences in optical effects produced by the smaller particles (dry haze) and larger particles (damp haze), which develop from slow condensation upon the hygroscopic haze particles. Dry haze particles, with diameters of the order of 0.1 μm, are small enough to scatter shorter wavelengths of light preferentially though not according to the inverse fourth-power law of Rayleigh scattering. Such haze particles produce a bluish color when the haze is viewed against a dark background, for dispersion allows only the slightly bluish scattered light to reach the eye. The same type of haze, when viewed against a light background, appears as a yellowish veil, for here the principal effect is the removal of the bluer components from the light originating in the distant light-colored background. Haze may be distinguished by this same effect from mist, which yields only a gray obscuration, since the particle sizes are too large to yield appreciable differential scattering of various wavelengths."...

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01/03/2017 1:23 AM

Technically if you are a mechanical guy like doing some cooling tower etc, you call it mist.

If you are into some yoga or an environmentalist, you call it "fog".

If you are a hippest

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Re: Fog or Mist

01/03/2017 11:43 AM

Sorry. I guess I'm not hip anymore. I once was many decades ago.

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Re: Fog or Mist

01/04/2017 3:13 PM

In summary: Fog vs. Mist

Conclusion, the defining difference between mist and fog is visibility; if it is less than 1,000 metres we call it 'fog' and if visibility is greater than 1,000 metres we call it 'mist'.

Don't mix this up with Scotch mist or Haze.

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01/05/2017 8:30 AM

Not really.

For the "official" weather observer:

Particle size is different. Mist is large enough to be moving slowly, depending on wind if any, toward the ground. Fog generally can not be visibly seen moving toward the ground. It can be called a cloud on the ground.

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