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Mass Sign and Effects

04/22/2017 4:32 AM

Since I met the Maxwell equations (oh God, half a century ago) I wonder if given the similarity between electrostatic and gravitational formels there would exist a non conservative, rotational field derived from masses in movement. As all masses have same sign and are attracted each other, this field, let us call it "gyromasic", would behave opposite to magnets i.e. attracting equal poles. Similarly, two masses moving along parallel ways in the same direction would repel instead of being attracted as is the case with electric charges of same sign. Given the (relative) weakness of gravitational forces the gyromasic field would be rather difficult to detect, except may be in astronomical environements. The whole is consistent with

a) gravitational waves following Maxwell-like equations where a gyromasic permeability should be either introduced or deduced supposing that the wave speed equates light speed.

b) galaxy rotation where the gyromasic field created by the galactic nucleus would interactuate with the intrinsic and orbital gyromasic field of each star (no need of dark mass). Stars far from galaxy center spread out because of same effect..

c) planet orbits as well as Saturn/ Jupiter rings (no mass accretion in rings, ringless orbits).

This all is pure speculation but in my humble opinion not far from what one can read about negative masses, modified Newton dinamycs or propelentless drive. In any case, funny.

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04/22/2017 7:46 AM
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04/22/2017 10:36 AM

Thank you for the link. I did not know it were so far developed.

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04/23/2017 2:38 PM

Would it be possible that electronic configuration of subatomic particles reversed as a whole particle? Even if it can ve reversed, would it be possible that mass can be reversed? Mass is now a vector quantity? Nope, most unlikely.

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04/23/2017 11:55 PM

"... that electronic configuration of subatomic particles reversed as a whole particle?"

Well, there's antimatter - particles having spin and charge opposite their 'normal-matter' counterparts - but antimatter has positive mass.

Mass is a scalar quantity, but weight is a force and so is a vector. Electric charge is a scalar even though it is signed (ie, is positive or negative). Electric fields generated by charges, however, are vector quantities as they have both direction and magnitude. Gravitational fields are a little trickier; they are tensor quantities, combining two components – the gravitational field strength and the gravitational torsion field – into one.

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04/24/2017 8:04 AM

Well, if we go back to definition of terms, that thing they just discovered is not really mass at all. Isn't it? A misnomer may be. Perhaps, they should give it different name.

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04/24/2017 1:22 PM

It behaves as if it had negative mass. All the words are significant.

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04/24/2017 3:36 PM

Perhaps, they should give it different name.

The have, it's called effective mass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_mass_(solid-state_physics)

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