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rajeshs7759
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Advice/Resources/Literature Needed For Composite Filament Winder Design

07/03/2017 9:01 PM

I am currently working on my undergraduate thesis - it's focused on the design and upgrade of a filament winding machine (both hardware and software) that was designed and built in-house at my university. One of the tasks that I need to do is to update the controller code to allow the machine to be able to wind in helical patterns and dome shapes. However, I'm having a really hard time finding relevant literature surrounding the mathematics of these topics. I have discussed this issue with my supervisor and he suggested that I try to find some open-source filament winding control software and reverse engineer it if possible. However, I've had no luck with finding any such software. My question then is, where should I be looking to find the resources/literature on the topic of helical winding and winding over dome shapes? Relevant books? Articles? Reports? I would also like to ask for any advice from industry experts with regards to this topic. Thanks for your time and help.
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07/03/2017 9:40 PM

Something like this maybe?

http://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1376&context=etd

https://www.material.be/cadwind/download/index.html

http://www.entec.com/en-US/Filament-Winding/Software/

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07/04/2017 12:23 AM

Thanks for your reply. The article you linked is the kind of resource I'm after. As with the other two links, they appear to be commercial products and as such, I cannot reverse engineer them. It's the math behind the winding that I'm specifically after.
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07/04/2017 11:10 AM

Is this for making some form of apparel? Or is it in relation to making a structure as in a building? Are you building a new mosque?

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07/04/2017 4:19 PM

"Are you building a new mosque?"

Really? You have managed to roll racism, Islamophobia, arrogance, and outright rudeness into one really disgusting statement!

Are Texans all as rude as you, or are you special?
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07/04/2017 4:52 PM

You disgrace yourself, hiding in the shadows there. I thought he has an interesting idea - spirals and domes included. For all you know I am Muslim. I know my prayers, and say them often, maybe not five times daily, nor have I been to Mecca. You have no idea what I think, what I believe, or what I do, so you go back into your snake den, father of all lies.

I would say the rest, but the comment would be banned, as yours already should have been.

Take your ad hominem attacks (name calling, labeling, etc.) with you into the cold, dark place where you came from, and to where you are bound.

If I say else, I would be in danger of hell fire myself. Therefore, I am showing full restraint. If this were a real place in person, we would most definitely have a problem.

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07/05/2017 5:32 PM

rajeshs7759,

For the mathematical aspects: mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/Topology.html is an overwhelming source.Wolfram also has his own mathematical software language which can probably deal with any topology from a mathematical perspective and allow one to construct models in depth and simulate any configuration conceivable. Expect a steep learning curve. If it is just way too much, use it only as a source of correct and detailed, disambiguated vocabulary and search terms glossary. BTW, topology is the technical term most mathematicians use to describe a lot about your topic and a lot which you probably consider off of your topic. Perceiving that difference will serve you well if you can manage it. This is not a put down, even the brightest and most educated find perspective about topology a struggle.

One example of a filament is a copper wire. The ham radio community has a bunch of software (some open source) related to winding helical antennae and other DIY ham radio items. You might try searching combinations of these terms:

Linux(more open source here), Helical, Beverage, software, spider-web, crystal radio

Architectural leads include barrel/groin/rib vault, column cage, Pantheon(one iron ring; construction still standing), Novosibirsk Opera House(hunt for pictures of rebar)

Art leads include caged glass, basket weaving, Escher

Biology leads include stereo-isomer, DNA/RNA, spiral crystals, 3D rendering

Fishing reels, construction crane spools, Fourier transforms, fractal dragons,.. might also provide leads.

Pressure vessel design, SCBA(firefighter air tank), textile automation, are examples of practical applications which relate to your quest. Web spinning using hot glue guns and compressed air is a popular DIY toy which you may find interesting and pertinent and who knows if someone has computerized it and written some software.

Quaternions and Octonions may be helpful mathematical representation means since they are used in software simulations of rotations of 3D objects.

Good luck on your quest,

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07/08/2017 4:16 PM

It's very telling that your "supervisor" suggested that you reverse engineer someone else's work, rather than have you do some research and thinking on your own, especially since a thesis is supposed to be an original piece of research, not a copy.

The topics that you seek are not difficult to find on the web, assuming that you have a good understanding of geometry, calculus, and differential equations should make this an easy task. You can start here.

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