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Joystick Question

12/10/2017 7:08 AM

I have joystick in hyd oil system ,contact point are connected in series and parallel with 1K ohm resistance .why ?

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Re: joystick

12/10/2017 8:12 AM

Voltage control?

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12/10/2017 8:53 AM

thanks

how to reduce the voltage from 12 to 9 dcv example ?if i connect directly what will happen .

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12/10/2017 10:48 AM

If proportional control, device will probably only move to 75% of full stroke. If speed control, speed will be 75% slower.

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Re: Joystick Question

12/10/2017 11:01 AM

If you can provide a picture of the schematic, someone here might be able to help. Otherwise, we're totally guessing.

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12/11/2017 7:54 AM

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Re: Joystick Question

12/12/2017 2:56 AM

signal goes to solenoid valve to control hydraulic oil flow to control hoisting speed,of course solenoid coil receive 0 or 9 ~12 V DC digital signal not analog

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12/10/2017 3:18 PM

Do you mean this?

|___1KΩ___
|____) (___|___1KΩ___
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Re: Joystick Question

12/10/2017 5:51 PM

It's a form of fail-safe circuitry known as a monitored contact. The controller operates only if the joystick presents with 1kΩ or 2kΩ (or some other combination depending on the actual circuitry). If you relied upon the state of the contact and/or its associated conductors (zero or infinity), then an open/shorted conductor/contact would mimic a command from the joystick possibly causing an operation that was never intended.

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12/10/2017 9:50 PM

Also used in security and fire systems. The "end of line" resistor can have numerous connection points that will fault when open and read a known resistance when closed instead of a direct short.

4.7K Ohms = all is well

Zero Ohms = open door / fire / motion / etc.

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12/10/2017 11:35 PM

Also, infinite (or very high) Ohms = some kind of problem that needs to be addressed.

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Re: Joystick Question

12/12/2017 6:24 AM

I am guessing it is to 'match' the output of the joystick to a 4 - 20Ma control circuit.......the series resistor to stop the current going over 20mA

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12/12/2017 8:24 AM

but joystick its digital signal on off

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12/17/2017 2:49 AM

Please your help is very important,if I remove it what will happen?

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12/17/2017 12:07 PM

It's not there just to make the circuit more complex, it's there for a reason. Why would you want to remove it?

To answer your question: if you remove it (and don't replace it with a direct connection), the joystick simply won't work.

Go back and read RAMConsult's post #6 a few more times, until you understand it. There is a reason why it has 6 GAs!

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12/17/2017 10:44 PM

Joystick bare contacts may be digital, but controller's input circuitry is analog.

Joystick in neutral position, controller sees R1 + R2; joystick in operating position, controller sees R1; open signal conductor, controller sees ∞ resistance; short to ground, controller sees 0Ω.

Anything other than R1 + R2 or R1, plus/minus a tolerance for conductor resistance, controller takes no action and returns a fault code.

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