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Salt water able to burn??

09/13/2007 12:54 PM

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Has anyone heard the report of a guy being able to cause salt water to burn (combust) using essencially radio waves??

It would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the subject.

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09/13/2007 2:57 PM

http://onemansblog.com/2007/05/31/machine-literally-burns-saltwater-and-cures-cancer/

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09/14/2007 2:54 PM

following this blog, everyone seems interested in the H2 generation, etc. Whatever happened to the cure for cancer?

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09/17/2007 10:55 AM

You have made a notable observation, however this is a forum for engineers to exchange ideas and discussions; we are not physicians.

With that being said, a lot of good would come from a effiecient, low cost hygrogen producing technique. It could run all the cancer curing devices around the world.

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09/13/2007 11:52 PM

I've seen the video, he pumps a huge amount of radio freq energy in and gets a small plasma on top. Should get the free energy people going.

Of course you can get water to burn, just break it down into Hydrogen and Oxygen, then recombine and burn it. Only trouble is, it takes more energy to break it apart than you get back (when you take into account the losses). Jeff

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09/14/2007 1:37 AM

What happened to the salt?

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09/14/2007 6:25 AM

Here I am producing Hydrogen gas in salt water. The byproduct is sodium hypochlorite or chlorine bleach.

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09/14/2007 7:12 AM

That's cool!!!

Just noticed something to the right of the bucket... Is that a CRACK on the floor?

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09/14/2007 7:24 AM

Yep, that is the front porch of my grandfathers old farm house. I use the front room and porch for my shop and lab. Five gallons of wter, 1 pound table salt, some dc current and you get enough sodium hypochlorite to purify 25,000 gallons of water more or less.

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09/14/2007 7:44 AM

"Five gallons of water, 1 pound table salt"

Can you do the same with sea water? I have a "lot" here to offer.

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09/14/2007 9:13 AM

Sure, It will work with seawater. It is being done in other parts of the world

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09/14/2007 9:28 AM

For such a little island you guys are spread far and wide. I work with a guy from Yap. Small world.

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09/14/2007 9:47 AM

Here is something I copied off of the net

On-site generation of sodium hypochlorite as a means to deliver chlorine has been practiced for years on oil and gas production platforms worldwide. It provides a much safer disinfection mechanism than handling chlorine gas or biocides, and it is more proven than UV or ozone in use upstream of seawater filtration equipment.

Seawater can be used as the source of the chlorine ion needed to produce hypochlorite through electrolysis. Normal seawater has a chlorine ion concentration of 19000 - 20000 mg/l. DC current is passed through seawater in a cell to generate hypochlorite through a series of oxidation, hydrolysis and reduction reactions. The amount of hypochlorite produced is a function of the electricity passed directly through the cell. The overall net reaction is:

  • NaCl + H2O → e- → NaOCl + H2
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09/14/2007 10:46 AM

How much energy is required to alleviate the hydrogen from the salt solution? Is it less than what is required for water alone?

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09/14/2007 10:56 AM

It depends on your anode/cathode size. 4 volts and 10 amps works well on this small unit. At 60 amps it will really cook but a lot of heat is also generated.

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09/14/2007 10:58 AM

The salt acts as an electrolyte. You do get more current flow through the water. Yes there is much more activity using salt water compared to fresh water.

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09/14/2007 10:12 AM

The video just does not provide enough data to make any judgement about what is going on, making it meaningless.

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09/14/2007 12:09 PM

A fire burning hot enough to split water into H2 and O2 will keep burning when you throw water at it.

Same question as other pointed out: How much energy input and how much we get out of it?


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09/14/2007 12:27 PM

The Cuyahoga River used to catch on fire from time to time.

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09/14/2007 2:53 PM

One hot, still ,August night we were frog hunting in a small creek. One of the lanterns was dying and John and his brother thought it was out of fuel. They placed it on a sand bar and poured fuel from the good one into the one going out. No funnel around and they spilled as much into the sand as the lantern. 'the fuel seeped into the water and I was thinking as it spread. It wont be long now. then WOOOOOSSSSHHH. The creek was blazing up to their chins....for a second. they were still running after it went out. I will never forget the look on their faces.

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