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Liquid and Plastic Limit for Soil-Cement Mixture

05/30/2018 2:52 PM

According to the Soil-Cement Laboratory Handbook published by the Portland Cement Association, the procedure for determining the Liquid Limit of a soil-cement mix is the following:
"Sufficient water is added to each [soil-cement] sample and mixed to obtain a uniform moisture content slightly greater than the Plastic Limit. After a delay period of 1, 24, 48 hours or longer, the mixture is washed over a No. 40 sieve. The material passing the sieve is allowed to settle in a pan and the clear water is then siphoned off. Dry the sample at 140 deg F and reduce by a pestle so it passes a No. 40 sieve. Water is then added to perform the liquid, plastic or shrinkage limit tests."
My question is: given that the time necessary to dry the mixture after it was washed through the No. 40 sieve is around 3 hours, does this not affect the whole "delay period", especially if the test is performed for an 1 hour delay?! Since the "delay period" is performed in order to allow the cement to react with the water, should i not include in this period the time which the mixture spends inside the oven waiting to get dry?
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Re: Liquid and Plastic Limit for soil-cement mixture

05/30/2018 3:23 PM
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Re: Liquid and Plastic Limit for soil-cement mixture

05/30/2018 4:02 PM

Thank you for the reply. I have followed the ASTM standard you mention in finding LL and PL for clay soils. The question I ask, however, relates to soil-cement mixtures, which takes into consideration the chemical reaction between cement and water.

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Re: Liquid and Plastic Limit for soil-cement mixture

05/31/2018 11:31 AM

The directions state wait, wash, settle, dry, grind, rehydrate and test in that order. Do not include the wait in the drying time as it has not been washed or settled yet and the process is a serial sequence.

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Re: Liquid and Plastic Limit for soil-cement mixture

06/01/2018 8:30 AM

I appreciate the reply, and what you are saying is quite logical. The waiting part is different from the drying part. My problem, however, lies in the function of each phase. If waiting is to allow the cement to react with water, isn't there the same happening during the drying phase, where water is still in contact with cement?

Thank you again for the reply.

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06/01/2018 10:54 AM

You are right that it will react. However, the purpose of the test is to compare standardized method results. If all specimens are compared the same way and the result standards are determined the same way, then the results can be compared meaningfully.

The test answer may be theoretically incorrect, but will be consistently incorrect and still can be compared to determine the acceptability or rejectability of the final product. The test result itself may be meaningless, but it correlates to an acceptable or rejectable final product.

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Re: Liquid and Plastic Limit for Soil-Cement Mixture

06/01/2018 8:56 AM

I figured it out: at 140 deg F, the process of hydration (reaction of cement with water) does not take place.
Thanks to everyone for your replies!

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06/07/2018 5:05 AM

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07/05/2018 4:36 PM

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Re: Liquid and Plastic Limit for Soil-Cement Mixture

12/07/2018 6:40 AM

Soundness test of cement by Le-Chatelier apparatus is very easy but very important test along with many other quality tests on cement.

Before going to the exact details, procedure and calculations of soundness test of cement by Le-Chatelier apparatus, let’s first discuss about the overview of soundness.

As an engineer what behavior do you expect from a structure that swells when gets hardened?

Have ever you heard or witnessed water supply lines being blown out in winters due to icing of waters therein? So if you answer to above questions you would know how destructive the unsoundness is.

The word soundness has a meaning of reliability and trustworthiness so in a rigid construction material like concrete; the soundness is an imperative property.

source: https://definecivil.com/soundness-test-of-cement/

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