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Bon Aire Durango Control Module Issue

06/30/2018 12:01 AM

A customer called me to fix their Durango, that I installed 3 years ago in their livingroom. They said the cooler would work on manual control but not on remote control. Also the pump was not working. In those 3 years, they ran the cooler, it had not been serviced ( I indicate to my customers that it is a good idea to service coolers every year, some choose not to ) once.

I cleaned cooler, replaced the pump ( $52.00 usd ) . The cooler would now pump water and work on manual control but not on remote. In the image of the control module box there is a toggle switch, a stem for a rotary mechanical switch and a led receiver for remote.

I checked the mechanical switch with an audible continuity meter, no problem there. This switch has 6 positions ( three for fan only control & three for fan / pump control ) the switch does not rotate 360 degrees.

I observed that the fan worked on all 3 speed, so i assumed that the fan and it's start capacitor were working ( 0BB6-5, 20v F + - 5%, 450v ac 50/60 hz, 40/70/21 DB C P 2 ) .

I then checked the circuit board. I could see what looked like a blown fuse ( my first thought was, if the fuse was blown, why did the fan and pump work on manual control but not remote. Could it be that the circuit is only protected when the cooler is in remote operation ?

We installed a new circuit board and this solved the issue ( 100.00 usd )

Board information :

On the back of the board ( etch ) there are about a dozen microchips. Manufacturer : Shanghai Dingling ( I thought it said ding _ ling, then I checked again ) Electronics co. Ltd.

Input : 120v

Output :

1. Hi 3.5 A 120v 60 hz

2. Mod : "", "", ""

3. Low "", "", ""

4. Pump 2.4 LRA / 0.4 FLA 120v, 60 hz

Contacts on board, left to right : High - black, Med - orange ( on the back of the board it says Mod, on the front of the board it says Med. (?) ) , Low - Grey, Pumpp - black ( Pumpp (?) , Earth - Green Yellow

Board, Durango - window - cooler - control - TV1 . 3 - 2013 10 - 12 ( so the unit I installed in 2015, was built in 2013 )

The fuse is about 1" long and about 3/16" wide, it is a glass fuse with metal end caps, there appears to be a veil inside that looks like shielding, covering a metal wire. It is rated at 250v. The fuse holder is soldered to the board.

Exactly what type of fuse is this and or can another fuse be substituted ? Such as a blade fuse ?

Where do I get a replacement fuse ? Of course, Bon Aire wants to sell a whole control board ( maybe I could repair this board in the field )

Here are some grainy images : in the images, the fuse is located next to what looks like a yellow rectangular box ( this is a capacitor ) .

The blades on the lower side of the board are outputs for the fan and the pump.

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Re: Bon Aire Durango control module issue

06/30/2018 7:19 AM

Maybe the remote battery is dead. Try checking the IR output from the remote control with a cell phone camera, which can often see the infrared output.

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Re: Bon Aire Durango control module issue

06/30/2018 9:17 AM

I replaced battery in remote ( 1 button cell ) 3.0 v / meter showed voltage as 3.2 v / I have a spare remote used to test ( known good unit ) .

Only after board was replaced did remote operate control module.

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06/30/2018 10:24 AM

Poor quality tablet camera picture ( no excuse ) .

I will try to explain circuit / schematic : ( note : the schematic is for wiring only, there is not a schematic of the board, itself )

110 v 60 hz on input line, green to earth block, white to neutral block, black to speed control selector switch. The speed control selector switch is actually the toggle switch that allows operator to switch from manual to remote.

White and red from speed control selector switch , white to input on rotary speed control selector switch. This switch actually controls fan speeds. Red to Active input on speed control pcb.

The speed control selector switch is dpst.

Outputs from rotary speed selector switch to speed control pcb : grey to low, brown to pump, orange to med, black to high.

The rotary speed selector switch electrically is 2 dpdt switch 's . Grey / brown off, grey / brown on. Orange / black off, orange / black on . White input.from speed control selector switch.

Input from receiver led to pcb via ribbon cable.

Input line green via earth block to pcb earth. Input line white via neutral block to neutral on pcb.

White from neutral block to pump. Green from earth block to pump. Black from pcb output to pump.

On speed control pcb there are 7 outputs :

green / yellow from earth green input to fan motor.

Blue from neutral input to fan motor.

Red from active on on pcb / there is no input opposite of active on pcb. Red to speed control selector switch.

Black to pump from brown input from rotary speed selector switch.

Grey to motor low from grey input from speed control selector switch.

Orange to motor med from orange input from speed control selector switch.

Black to motor high from black input from speed control selector switch.

Capacitor is red / white. White is attached to fan motor low, before winding. Grey feeds low.

Red is attached to fan motor high before winding. Blue from pcb to thermal overload, then to connection with red from capacitor, then to high fan motor winding, opposite of black from pcb output.

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06/30/2018 12:08 PM

You need more information on the fuse other than just the voltage if you are going to replace it....It's not likely you can repair the board unless you see something obvious...otherwise you need all the board specs and you face the rather time consuming task of testing each component and circuit....ok for just passing the time, but not a wise or reliable repair strategy...

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Re: Bon Aire Durango Control Module Issue

06/30/2018 5:51 PM

Generally speaking, if you look inside a glass fuse and see anything other the usual straight piece of fuse element, you're looking at a slo-blo or time delay fuse.

Your best bet is to unsolder the fuse clips from the board and see if you can pry off the clips from the end caps. If you're lucky you should find some markings that identify the fuse type and its rating.

If the new fuse blows also then you know that the problem is elsewhere in the circuitry. at that point you'll need to use all your troubleshooting skills to ferret out the problem.

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06/30/2018 10:53 PM

Thanks Ram .

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Re: Bon Aire Durango Control Module Issue

07/02/2018 8:40 AM

When I read the first line I wondered why you installed a Dodge pickup in someone's living room .

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07/02/2018 10:21 PM

Dodge / Chrysler / Plymouth are known for their power, as for a Dodge installed in a living room, if somebody hasn't thought of that already, it's fuel for the fire.

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07/02/2018 10:32 PM

The irony isn’t lost that a good observation and comment was offered by member RAMConsult.

In fact, I’m gonna throw him a GA for #5.

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Re: Bon Aire Durango Control Module Issue

07/02/2018 10:54 AM

The fuse size you are describing is a 5 x 25mm size fuse. Littlefuse carries these.

Really can't tell based on the description whether you have a slo blow or fast blow fuse type or the current rating.

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Re: Bon Aire Durango Control Module Issue

07/03/2018 8:21 AM

Looks like a switching power supply for the remote function and fuse is on ac to power supply. Check line rectifier diodes, filter capacitors, MOV (surge suppressor) if it has one, switching transistor, low voltage rectifiers and LV filter capacitors(very common failure in switching supplies). BTW switching supplies rectify line voltage and filter it then chop it at a high frequency to drive a very small transformer to step voltage down then rectify and regulate it. If one capacitor is bad change all in same area paying attention to temperature ratings. Switching supplies can be a nightmare to troubleshoot.

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Re: Bon Aire Durango Control Module Issue

08/27/2018 4:41 PM

Yes for sure this is full wave diode rectifier and you need to thing how this will work with broken flter i think bad

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Re: Bon Aire Durango Control Module Issue

07/05/2018 3:06 PM

Hi Tony,

Here's what I've found when working on electronics like this. Typically, when a fuse blows, it's from something in the circuit overheating (most times a burnt component). You may be lucky this time. Since the pump was bad, it could've caused the circuit to draw too much current so the fuse blew to protect the circuit. That would be a well engineered device.

My recommendation is to replace it with any type of fuse that is the right current rating (doesn't matter if it's regular or slow blow). If the fuse doesn't blow and you can control it through the remote, then all is well. Buy the correct fuse and you have a spare part. If the fuse blows, then you'll have to repair the circuit board. Most likely not worth your time and effort, so it would go into the scrap heap.

I know it's not a very scientific way to diagnose fuse problems, but since the cost of the board is low and it's readily available, you shouldn't spend too much time and money on the repair.

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07/05/2018 3:11 PM

One other observation. They kept the Durango in their living room window for three years straight? Either you did one heck of a job on insulating the unit and making an insulated cover or they had a lot of warm air going out the window/unit in the wintertime.

I remove the Durango's at all of our rentals in the fall and replace them in the spring. The rentals are in Lancaster and it gets down to the mid teens on cold nights. Too much heat escaping from the unit. It takes two people to move it to the garage. I always clear the water line, so when it freezes the copper tube doesn't burst.

I do the same with my portable "rolling" air conditioner I use at my condo in Orange County. I install it in late spring and move it to the closet in the fall. The AC unit takes about 15 minutes to install - easy job, but I have to be careful so I don't break those tabs on the ducts.

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