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Ralfativity pt 3: Relative Velocity and the Myth of the Preferred Frame

11/07/2018 12:36 PM

Over the years, relativity has succeeded in convincing everyone that if you can prove you're the one who's actually moving in a constant relative velocity relationship, then you're talking about an absolute preferred frame. The true meaning is that the only way you can prove you're moving within your own frame is if you feel a force on you. It's easy and irrelevant to prove whether you or the other frame are actually moving and by how much of a percentage over the other guy. Relative velocity remains relative whether you have none or half or all of it and you can depict it as any percentage movement you want. If you're parked on the side of the road, that's irrelevant to the fact if a guy speeds past you at 60mph, both of you still have a velocity of 60mph relative to each other. There's no preferred frame here. If you think it's the earth, each one has a separate velocity relative to it.

The following ralfativity STD shows how, from Alice's perspective (depicted as moving), Bob's depicted stationary perspective is actually moving at the same relative velocity to her. This is a technique that at first I thought was smoke and mirrors but it really works as I'll show in future threads.

The blue horizontal lines are Bob's lines of present and the red slanted lines are Alice's. From Bob's perspective, for 1yr travel (blue lines between 3 and 4) he travels .6 ly (2.4-1.8) which is .6c. Alice's Yv =x/t' for 1 of her years between 3 and 4 is .75lly/1yr =.75c. This is Bob's perspective of how far Alice travels in one of her years.

From Alice's perspective of how far Bob travels in one of her years( between her red 3 and 4), we see Bob's dilated time wrt Alice is between 3.2 - 2.4 = .8 bob yrs. The blue lines from those years lead to how far bob travels from Alice's perspective (1.92-1.44 = .48 ly). .48/.8 = .6c is Bob's velocity through space from Alice's perspective.

Relativity traditionally depicts Alice's perspective of Bob in a separate STD where she is depicted as stationary.

This is completely wrong for so many reasons. First it was shown in Ralfativity pt 1 that space can't move or be moved relative to anything. This was confirmed by the Michelson-Morley experiment. If space was made of water, the MM experiment would have shown a relative velocity to the speed of light through water but it would have also been able to calculate, through the relativistic velocity combo law, the value of c through a voided space.

Space can't move past Alice as the STD depicts. Alice is also depicted as maintaining 0 velocity relative to an empty patch of space for 4 of her years and then takes off at .8824c relative to that empty patch. That's how the depiction keeps her velocity at .6c relative to Bob.

The other problem with this depiction of Alice's perspective is that the bulk of the universe is supposedly moving past her when physically that's impossible. She's the one who accelerated to .6c, not the universe past her. The other reason it's impossible because if Alice is likened to a needle on a spinning record, the needle would have to be anchored to an absolute point outside of the universe. There is no more absolutist view than that.

Perspective does not require it to be labelled as either stationary or moving. Ralfativity allows Alice to be moving and still see Bob as moving as it should be in relative velocity.

At 15:50 of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecXppkuRvig&index=18&list=PLj6DWzIvBi4PFDXCCV1bNhVUgDLTwVbFc

Alice travels through a city and she sees length contraction all around her. Bob only sees her as length contracted. This seems like an imbalance and a preferred frame because Alice is definitely the one in motion. It's very unlikely that she's tethered to another planet passing by earth and the tether is dragging her through this earth city.

Ralfativity says she will not see length contraction because distance is invariant. This means there will be no visible imbalance between the two perspectives. Time is the only thing that bends to maintain c constant from all perspectives.

Please don't bother showing me the wiki articles of the reality of length contraction. I don't know if length contraction is independently a real phenomenon from relativity but it is definitely just an unproven assumption and false construct of the theory of relativity. Length contraction is a product of perspective. It does not survive into reality once the cause of the perspective is removed. Time dilation, on the other hand, is also a product of perspective but, under the circumstances of the twin paradox, it can transition into a permanent reality of age difference.

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Re: Ralfativity pt 3: Relative Velocity and the Myth of the Preferred Frame

11/07/2018 4:17 PM

The speed of empty space reprinted so you don't need to look for it.

Let's say you launch a tube of water at .1c with a laser inside and outside the tube and a time comparator at the end to measure the speed difference between the two beams of light. The speed of light through water happens to be .75c so the combined velocity of the tube will bring the speed of light within the tube wrt the outer laser to .8c using the velocity combo law.

But the tube has a small leak and as it evacuates, the speed within the tube gets closer and closer to the outside c. When the tube is evacuated, both the light within and without the tube are at c. The vacuum sealed in the tube is the same as the vacuum outside the tube which means space can't move or be moved. The sealed tube is not moving the vacuum within it.

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Re: Ralfativity pt 3: Relative Velocity and the Myth of the Preferred Frame

11/09/2018 9:27 AM

The following STD shows light signals communicating between Bob and Alice. The ones from Bob are in yellow and from Alice, pink.

Since Bob and Alice started together at t=0 in the instantaneous present (they were co-located), all Alice has to say in her pink message to Bob st t'=4 is that she has aged 4 yrs. Age is the passage of time through time measured by her clock. (Her time component through space is 1 yr as discussed above.) When Bob gets the message at t=8, he can calculate from the message contents that it took 3 of his years to reach him and that he was 5 in his delayed present when Alice sent it.

Alice simultaneously gets a yellow message sent from Bob that he is 2 from her perspective in her delayed present of t'=4. She can calculate from the message contents that it took 2.4 of her years for the light to travel the 3 ly from Bob. This is c' =Yc=x/t' which is the mixed perspective of the common distance using Alice's clock. From Bob's perspective c=x/t=3/3=1c. From Alice's perspective c=c'/Y=1.25/1.25=1c so no conflict with relativity.

A few of you might be screaming that this is a trick to hide length contraction in some fancy math footwork. Oh how quickly we forget the previous post.

Alice's perspective of Bob at t'=4 in Alice years is t=3.2 in Bob years. So from Alice's perspective of Bob, Bob's light signal has moved 1.2 ly in 1.2 of his years which equals c. (Similarly Bob's relative velocity through space from Alice's perspective is 1.92/3.2= .6c.) No tricks here, c is c from all perspectives without needing length contraction.

So what have we determined thus far. From Bob's perspective when Bob's age is t=5, Alice's age is t'=4 plus a year hidden in the distance between them so they're both technically 5. From Alice's perspective, when Alice's age t'=4, Bob's age is t=3.2 plus .8yrs hidden in the distance between them so they're both 4. From the .33c green line perspective, Bob and Alice see each other as 4 which is how old they would see each other along the purple line of instantaneous present.

The reason the reading at Bob t=5 seems out of whack with the rest is the reciprocal time dilation at Alice t'=4 and Bob t=3.2 is actually Bob t=4 and Alice t'=3.2, not Bob t=5 and Alice t'=4.

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Re: Ralfativity pt 3: Relative Velocity and the Myth of the Preferred Frame

11/10/2018 8:21 AM

Oops I made a mistake c'=c/R not c/Y.

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Re: Ralfativity pt 3: Relative Velocity and the Myth of the Preferred Frame

11/12/2018 11:42 AM

Since STD depictions are all about relative velocity between two participants, the results must be the same no matter what common background frame is being used. Since all depictions yield the same results, any depiction chosen is as valid as any other and is not the dreaded preferred frame.

The following Loedel and Minkowski (without length contraction) STD's look very different from each other but actually yield the same results when properly understood. The first step is to understand the difference between stationary and moving depictions and Bob's and Alice's relative perspectives. To do so strips away any dependence on the background frame and circumvents limitations of depiction.

The Loedel isn't rotated to create the Minkowski, it's pushed over and the lines of simultaneity will shift. The units labelling the velocity lines will also shift and require re-labelling.

The distances will be compared between Bob and Alice separating from each other at .33c relative to earth and Alice separating at .6c from Bob depicted as stationary. Earth will not be depicted as stationary with Bob in this STD, that is another depiction with the green and blue lines overlapping.

We'll just go through and check the numbers and illustrate the techniques to get at those numbers.

1. Loedel Bob's perspective of Alice at t=2.5 is she has travelled .67-(-.83)=1.5ly. Remember there is no length contraction in ralfativity, the x-axis is shared and invariant. Bob's velocity is 1.5/2.5 = .6c. Alice's v' from Bob's perspective using Alice's time and invariant space is 1.5/2 =.75c. Same results for the Minkowski except the distance travelled is 1.5-0=1.5ly.

2. Loedel Bob's perspective of Alice at t=2 is she has travelled ..53-(-.67)=1.2ly. Bob's velocity is 1.2/2 = .6c. Alice's v' from Bob's perspective is 1.2/1.6 =.75c. Same results for the Minkowski except the distance travelled is 1.2-0=1.2ly.

3. Loedel Alice's perspective of Bob at t'=2 (using ralfativity without having to redraw Alice as stationary) is the red line from t'=2 to t=1.6 then the blue line to t'=1.28. The corresponding distance he travels is .422-(-.533)=.96ly. So his v=.96/1.6 = .6. Same results for the Minkowski except the distance travelled is .96-0=.96ly. Alice at t'=2 sees Bob move only .96ly while Bob sees Alice at t'=2 move 1.5ly. Why? because there are 2 different perspectives of Alice at t'=2 which have nothing to do with which one you depict as moving or stationary.

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