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Thickness Controlling in 2Hi Cold Rolling Mill

12/25/2018 12:37 AM

Can some one help me to explain about Thickness controlling in 2Hi Cold Rolling.

I am first time user of this type of control system.

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Re: Thickness controlling in 2Hi Cold Rolling Mill

12/25/2018 1:00 AM

Probably in the owners manual....

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12/26/2018 11:47 AM

If not, then the manufacturer's telephone number certainly will be. The Original Poster did ask for <...anyone...>, after all...

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12/26/2018 12:06 PM

<...anyone...> <...some one...>

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12/25/2018 2:40 AM
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12/26/2018 12:22 PM

About 3 decades ago I did the controls for a rolling mill for nickel.

We used diamond pointed LVDT's on both the in-going and out-going strip.

The rolling force causes the mill frame to stretch - so if the in-going strip becomes thicker then the mill needs to screw down to have the required out-going thickness.(Feed-forward control). Obviously there is a time lag between the in-going measurement and when that thickness reaches the rolls. A delay based on strip speed for the screw down has to be programmed so the mill is not tightened prematurely.

The outgoing measurement is a check on the result - but again it tends to be past history, so all you can do is have a small adjustment to keep the average gap correct to achieve the final measurement. This is calculated between the incoming thickness, how far the mill was closed, and the final result,

There was a lot of math involved, and test measurements made for the setup. Once setup it was amazingly accurate.

The science of how the rolls reduce the material and the selection of roll diameters, power, etc. is another topic on its own.

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12/26/2018 10:38 PM

In aluminum, you can't touch the strip, so LVDT sensors with very high accuracy are connected to the roll bearing housings, measuring actual displacement of the rolls. Add to that sensors reading the force in the stack, load cells, from which you can calculate the bending of the bearing housings and the mill rolls . A mathematical model of the mechanical components including deflection cross machine and stretch in the vertical direction is used to calculate the mill roll gap, setting the thickness of the product. On line radioactive gauges that directly measure the strip thickness coming out of the rolls are used to control the loading of the roll stack, often with very high pressure hydraulics loading the roll stacks, to give fast feedback response to changes in the process, temperature and metallurgy. This sort of control system is sometimes referred to as AGC, automatic gage control.

The shape of the strip in the cross direction is very important, so the thickness is not uniform across the width, to reduce edge cracks and other stresses, this is part of the thickness control, shape control.

Depending on the depth of explanation you are looking for, use search term cold roll mill AGC and you will find a wealth of information from which you can narrow your request for information. The metal you are working with, the compatible solvents/lubrication, roll friction, temperature rise during rolling, all very complex subjects that can be simplified by zeroing in on your actual machinery.

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12/27/2018 1:39 PM

Just an off topic note -- I did the drives for an Alcan aluminum mill in Quebec. I think they were using kerosene as a lubricant coolant for the process on a doubler. They would get flash fires that an automatic CO2 extinguisher would extinguish the fire and the rolling never stopped.

They had huge CO2 tanks. One day they received a fill from a tanker. Later that day they went and checked the gauges - they read very low - so they ordered new gauges.

It turned out there was nothing wrong with the gauges - but in the following chain of events they burnt the factory to the ground.

The fire was so hot the massive "I" beams twisted like taffy, the windows melted into puddles, cinder block turned to powder. I had never witnessed such massive destruction in a plant that looked almost empty inside with coils of aluminum lying around. I found it hard to imagine just what fueled the fire.

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12/27/2018 7:55 PM

This is off topic. Dear mr moderator :

I see there are 4 postings for keto something or another,, how are adverts not caught, before the cr4 sheet goes out to copy ?

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12/27/2018 8:53 PM

Have you seen : americansteel.com

Tag / two high cold rolling mill

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