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Bubble Panels

01/05/2006 2:54 PM

My friend builds and designs large bubble panels for the commercial entertainment industry. He was having a problem getting the bubbles to come out of the hose evenly across. The panes range in size (height, width , thickness and are filled with water). He pokes holes on silicone tubing at random to make a pattern in the wall which to him was a guess at best. I told him that there is a formula for the number and size of holes in a header with certain pressures and that he should poke fewer holes with a structured spacing across(linear or parallel to the length). Can anyone help with the formula so we can have a better chance of predicting the airflow and bubble pattern in the panels?

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fluid flow manograph

01/05/2006 10:58 PM

ge a fluid flow manorgaph from GRACO paint equipment supplier

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Re:fluid flow manograph

01/06/2006 12:00 AM

duh! not trying to measure fluid flow or regulate pressure. trying to get air through water at a controlled height. think fish tank with a nicer frame and pretty lights and stuff! need to know how many holes and what size to get even bubbles accross the panel. lots of variables, water press., supply air press., length of tubing, how many holes? what size holes?

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bubble panels

01/06/2006 12:14 AM

Crane puts out a manual, I think it is called The flow of liquids through pipes. The formulae you desire will be there or perhaps in the Power Engineering book called "Steam"

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Re:bubble panels

01/06/2006 7:38 PM

thank you!

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Bubble Panels

01/06/2006 4:03 AM

When we do live gas flame effects burning on the surface of a water bath we use a system similar to that described in the original posting. You have not specified the air pressure available which I assume will be low pressure fanned air (70mbar) nor the depth of water above the distribution pipe which I assume to be 300-450mm. The important variables for uniform or predictable distrubution are that the air velocity in the silicone tube must be low and that the total area of the holes should not exceed 70% of the cross sectional area poof the pipe bore. The holes should be as small as you can DRILL commercially say 0.5 to 1mm dia to give a small buble size and assuming that they are drilled every 10mm and the tank is 1000 long you will need a 12mm bore. The holes could be uniformly distributed ot arranged in a pattern as long as the total hole area/ pipe area is less than 0.7. Have fun

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Re:Bubble Panels

01/06/2006 7:40 PM

thank you more!

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