Chinese Manufacturers

A perfectly sensible China relate post!

Indeed, many years ago I worked on production test and the $/£ was such that is was economical for the US division to ship kits for monitors to the UK for assembly and test. (We were also 300% efficient on test which also helped! )

Del

I don't see that as the problem. What i see as an example is say a big department store importing merchandise. The manufacturers in the USA have regulations controlling safety standards that the China manufactures should be complying with if imported into the US. The problem is that nothing is compelling the big department store to check them before putting them on the shelf. If a company in the the US wishes to sell imported goods in order to capitalize on cheap labor. It should be that companies responsibility to insure the imported goods meet US safety standards. If we are to have the US government set up a large federal organization to do the inspection. Then why make US manufacturers spend the money insuring quality control. Let the US government do it for them. Do you want to pay the taxes on that. If we have to increase taxes to insure imported goods meet safety standards where are the cost savings to the consumer.

I really can't believe that in the 21st Century that Chinese manufactures are so far behind that they are ignorant of lead toxicity, bad chemicals in pet food, and other transgressions.

I get the feeling that it's a cultural gap - someone prove to me that it's not. AKA: "Who cares about a few cats and dogs that they would get upset if they died?" and "So what if a few people get exposed to some lead, who's going to complain?" Probably not in China, but in the US, hell yes!!!

These were the same people that took blood is ten gallon batches (mixed!!!) from rural communities and returned blood to the population in ten gallon batches!!! CAN YOU SAY AIDS!!! That was the main vector in China!

Calm calm..

I am calm. This is just me.

Ask Lucious Prn.

Q:"why don't we just use China as an assembly base and let the good old USA remain a strong manufacturing base where we control the product and quality?"

A:Money for "we"- the MultiNational company job exporting lowest global proce addicts.

Q:"Also if they do this to toys, cribs and tires, what other things are they not producing to our standards which ashould be safe and quality products?"

A: Every product should be safe and quality product.

What other things Actually are making the grade?

Can't say. But I watched their police round up some peddlers in beijing and they were quite proficient.

milo

The Chinese are a work in progress, and it will take time for them to work up the same quality chain that Japan and then Korea worked up in the past. They are aware of this, but there are tens of thousands of manufacturers who are not tech savvy about paint etc, and to them paint is paint, and a lead free certification is just a signature on a line...they sign it. These people do not have any QC in their buying. They have no idea what lead paint is. Here paint makers cannot use lead in paint any more. Someday China will do that.

Chinese goods are going to ruin many economies, like USA/Canada/UK/Europe, unless the Chinese cirrency is allowed to rise, making Chinese goods more expensive and levelling the playing field. Chinese wages also need to rise as well.

In time wages all over the earth will equalize (500 years??) but in the short run these Chinese goods are hollowing out our economies. The Chinese can make a car for $2000. Just add up the raw cost of the metals and plastics in a car and add $500 assembly labor of an intensive sort and you have a car you can sell for $2500.

US cars are costly due to high wages in making engines, transmissions etc. In about 5 years we will see Chinese cars here in volume. They are in the test phase now, to get the pollution rules in place and then they will set of distributors and parts depots. Remember the Japanese car start procedure? ....how bad the first ones were.

The Chinese will copy them, but eliminate the bad first years.

There will not be a Chinese Yugo, they are getting ready and they will land on their feet running. We will not be able to call Chinese goods junk any longer

http://www.forbes.com/2002/04/23/0423yugo.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugo

I still get back to the same question. Where is the advantage to the American corporation (or the American people). If you eliminate the decent paying manufacturing jobs in the US and replace them with jobs at fast food joints. Having cheap goods just lowers the standard of living for the US citizen. Unless of course he/she is a lawyer, doctor, politician or other high paying job. And at that point it wont matter anyway because the costs will have risen for the goods entering the US to the point where even this class will not be able to afford them.

Btw, I saw that Al Gore was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize today. Good Luck!! I am glad that I am senior citizen and can remember when the Nobel Prize meant something.