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Global Warming: Double Edged Sword

10/17/2007 2:29 PM

Interesting article from National Geographic regarding the improving conditions in Greenland due to global warming balanced against the deteriorating conditions for the indigenous Inuit people.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/10/071017-greenland-warming.html

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Re: Global Warming: Double Edged Sword

10/17/2007 2:45 PM

Roger,

Double edge sword, I would not quite call it that. Rather that adjusting to ones environment in Greenland.

With the introduction of cattle, it increases greenhouse gases.

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10/17/2007 2:54 PM

Odd, I thought the link I provided was quite clear about the downside:

"Yet for Inuit subsistence hunters, global warming promises no silver lining.

In northern Greenland traditional Inuit culture is increasingly under threat from global warming, said Lene Kielsen Holm, sustainable development advisor for the Greenland arm of the Inuit Circumpolar Council in Nuuk.

The sea ice that Inuit use to hunt seals, walruses, and other animals is forming later and melting two months earlier than before.

"The warming of the ocean is making the ice so thin that people living from hunting are not able to follow the routes that they used to," Holm said. "They are seeing more and more accidents."

In the Qaanaaq region of northwestern Greenland this year, hunters lost their gear and sled dogs as abrupt storms broke up the thin sea ice, Holm said.

"If they can't go hunting, they can't feed their dogs," she added. "

Perhaps we should just tell the Inuit to adapt.

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10/17/2007 3:15 PM

Very clear on the downside. I was looking at their diffinition of the upside. That it is quite possible that upside could increase or farther strengthen the possiblity of global warming

I understood the meaning of a double edge sword being a good side and a bad side.

the report states that the introduction of cattle is the good side. when it actually could excellerate global warming by the introduction of greenhouse gas.

As far as your comment:

"Perhaps we should just tell the Inuit to adapt."

I'll take that literally, for them to survive longer, yes. But that will be thier choice, which isn't much of a choice.

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10/18/2007 11:54 AM

As I understand it, the unknown author of your signature statement is Abraham Lincoln.

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10/18/2007 12:05 PM

thank you,

I first heard it from my dad. I have tried to live by it to limited success by that I mean it works when I use it.

I'll verify it, and give the credit where due.

editing...

there are number of variant of it with Mark Twain being one of them, I will leave unknown until farther notice.

or I'll replace it with the last sentence.

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10/17/2007 4:21 PM

Greenland has had warm periods in it's past lasting hundreds of years I believe...that's how it got it's name.... 'cos it was green....

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10/17/2007 4:35 PM

now compared that to Iceland.......

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10/17/2007 5:35 PM

When I visited Iceland they told us that they named the two islands backwards to confuse invaders into coming to the wrong island, but I don't think that is true.

It seems that the islands were named what they are due to the person naming them liking them or not, or the color of the clothing or something like that. I don't think that they were named as such because of them actually being climatically reversed.

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10/17/2007 6:02 PM

I put Iceland out there in light humor.

What I remember in geography way back when. the climates don't quite match the names of Iceland and Greenland, maybe someone out there can shed some light about that.

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10/17/2007 9:08 PM

It was good marketing. The vikings wanted settlers so they named it Greenland. At the time the climate was slightly warmer in Greenland. Unfortunately a small shift in the climate of the Northern Hemisphere called "the little ice-age" caused this barely inhabitable island to become pretty much uninhabitable in the 16th century.

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10/18/2007 4:07 AM

When I'm being funny...I generally make it obvious....I have a sufficient fund of useless information without the need to fabricate stuff!

I believe what I posted to be true.

I believe it (Greenland) was colonised by some people form Scotland or Norway or somesuch..much to the amusement of the indigenous population...when the cold returned the settlers couldn't adapt and died out, whereas the indigenous people merely reverted to their old ways.

I can't remember where I heard this but I believe the source to be sound...

I'll wager 100 Quatlous on the cat person.

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10/18/2007 8:00 AM

"I have a sufficient fund of useless information without the need to fabricate stuff!"

I did'nt think you fabricated it, and took it generally. But the names between the two and thier climate, since it was told to me, I always wanted to know why, but never made the effort or had the opportunity until know to find out. I can file that in my file of useless info, until classified otherwise.

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10/18/2007 8:45 AM

Sorry if I sounded too grumpy..

I just had a quick look on google... found this which is pretty much what I was saying. Except it was the Vikings!

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10/18/2007 9:13 AM

no need to apoligize I am not that sensitive (not all the time), cause if the cat is being a pest, I'll just put him outside for the night.

thanks for your consideration.

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10/18/2007 9:59 AM

"I'll wager 100 Quatlous on the cat person."

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