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Effect of brazed joint quality on contact buring/welding

10/17/2007 11:11 PM

hey guys! I need some very imp info.

We are brazing a Ag-CdO alloy to ETP copper with a Silver Brazing filler meta for making contact. After brazing the contact assy it is tested for 100000 on-off cycles with current on continuously.

During testing some contacts got welded & burned. We are trying to find the solution. One reason assumed was improper braze bond.

But, if you see a burnt/welded contact, only the contact surface (Ag-CdO) is affected (burnt) but the brazed joint is intact (with greater than 80% bonding area). The brazing is done at 600C, ETP coper melts at 1084C, & Ag-CdO is also having melting temp more than brazed joint. So, my point is that even if I assume that the bonding is not proper & contacts are running hotter then the first thing to fail is the brazed joint & not the contact surface (Ag-CdO). So, brazed joint is not the reason for failure.

Pls help me to prove that I am right.

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Re: Effect of brazed joint quality on contact buring/welding

10/18/2007 5:05 PM

This is a W. A. G , so take it for what it is.

Is this DC or AC current? What voltage? It sounds like the contacts are arcing?

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Re: Effect of brazed joint quality on contact buring/welding

10/18/2007 10:57 PM

AC current.

Contacts are arcing. Thereare various reasons viz. non planarity of contacts, copper deposition on the Ag-CdO surface, etc.

But assuming that all these reasons are not present, the questions remains the same. Has braze bonding anything to do with this?

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Re: Effect of brazed joint quality on contact buring/welding

10/18/2007 11:14 PM

I would check the temperature of the contacts during test. If the contacts that burn are operating at higher temperature than the ones that don't, voids in the braze joints may be adding thermal resistance. Also check to make sure that all brazing flux is removed.

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Re: Effect of brazed joint quality on contact buring/welding

10/18/2007 11:35 PM

There is no flux on the surface.

If you carefully read my questions. I have clearly mentioned that the braze bonding has more than 80 % (some of then have upto 98%) bonding & also my logic (which may be wrong) how brazed joint should fail before the contacts fail.

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10/19/2007 7:48 AM

Think of contact operation as a pulsed heat source to the contact. The majority of this heat is removed by conduction from the contact, through the braze joint, and into the structure. Porosity in the braze joint will act as a thermal insulator retarding the heat flow. Therefore, under the right test conditions, the contact attached with an 80% braze joint will run hotter than one with a 98% braze joint.

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