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Stamp panes stuck together

10/19/2007 9:01 AM

Could any one please help me to solve this problem.

Over a period of many years, I have been purchasing US stamps. The panes were kept in the glossy envelops that post office gives the stamps in. I used to buy stamps for the block but the clerks would say that they do not know where the block is. So I started buying two or three rows to make sure I got the block. When I got a little richer, (actually, no bragging as in reality, I am only a thousandaire) I started buying two sheets of the same issue of stamps and I have done that for many years now. Over the years and after many overseas assignments, I thought when I have time I will put them year by year and I purchased the albums for them. Now that I have time and tools, to my disappointment, I found out the panes are stuck together. This is before US post Office stared printing self-adhesive stamps.

Now when I try to take them apart, the color comes out on the glue side and ruins the stamp beneath. I do not want to put in the water like we take out stamps from the envelop. Steaming is an option but I am afraid I will lose the luster.

Is there some one, mighty learned one experienced in stamp collection and had this problem who will save me from this torture? I have good collection and I can see the top one only and glimpses of the stamps below and feel sorry for myself and angered too. Why I was so stupid to not to do it when the stamps were fresh. Well, the damage is done and now I need the remedy.

I shall appreciate your suggestions. I even took the blob in both hands and try to fold the stamps so glue would crack and stamps would come apart. Some did and some are as stubborn as a mule.

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Re: Stamp panes stuck together

10/19/2007 9:47 AM

Sorry Nadeem, I can't think of anything other than steam or gentle water spray etc...

I know its possibly too late now but they have to have a seperating sheet between them, tissue paper perhaps?

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10/19/2007 4:14 PM

Thanks, John.Yes, I should have put a separating sheet in between. You know that should have, could have and would have always give heartaches and this is one of that occasion.

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10/19/2007 4:55 PM

Please read the response I sent to TECHNO.

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10/19/2007 8:42 PM

"I know its possibly too late now but they have to have a seperating sheet between them, tissue paper perhaps?"

Best protection is to place each individual stamp in a glassine envelope. Never stack them and tie them in neat little bundles.

Stores selling stamp albums and supplies may have a solution to separate them.

DON'T take on the task of testing every liquid that comes to mind.

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11/06/2007 4:11 PM

Please see my note of 11/01/2007 to Techno and all of you who responded.

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11/01/2007 6:38 PM

Dear RLindey, Electroman, Techno and Stirling Stan:

As I promised that I wil be back on Nov 1st, I am here to report the experiments to peel off the stuck stamps.

I am addressing this message to all of you kind folks.

I should have been writing to you individualy but I am taking a short cut and writing to all of you at the same time. I hope you do not mind.

On Tuesday, after I performed my patriotic duty for the day (I went for jury duty selection), I put about 1/2" blob of stamps in the water as the steaming the wet stamps, rather damp stamps, in the microwave oven did not work. I was standing right there at the oven with the light on to see they do not burn.

Then about 10 PM, I put the whole blob in the deep tray filled with luke warm water and went to sleep. Next morning, I could peel them off very easily. No glue as the water turn like light beer (I do not drink any alcohol but know the color) with all that glue leached off from the stamps. So it worked, Thanks for the tips.

Now I have several 1/2" to 2 and 2 1/2 blobs all thestamps stuck together and I will do each separately. When you pull out gently, the dry stamps take the color away and when damp with overnight soaking, the glue goes away but shine is still there although not as much as it was before soaking. I am happy that all the colors are there and sides and the edges not damaged.

Once again thanks to all of you for the big help.

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11/02/2007 10:07 AM

Thanks for the report

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10/19/2007 9:49 AM

My father in law made a living withhis stamp collecting

The first option is to soak the stamps or sheets in tepid water until they separate, then dry them face down on a blotter or paper towels. This will remove all the gum and greatly reduce the value of the stamps. Be sure to use tweezers as fingerprints also decrease its value.

In the case of panes of mint stamps, however, very few United States issues after 1940 are worth much more than face value. The only way to rescue any value is to use the stamps as postage on correspondence.

One possibility is to steam the stamps apart by holding them over a boiling kettle. This is tedious and will remove some gum. or use a Sweatbox: A closed box containing a wet sponge-like material, over which stuck-together unused stamps are placed on a grill. Humidity softens the gum, allowing separation of stamps.

Another is to use a warm dry iron. Place the stuck stamps face up on an ironing board, then lay a clean lint- free towel over them. Run the iron over the towel several times, testing frequently to see at what point the stamps can be peeled apart. This is also tedious, and may leave gum stains on the face of the lower sheets, again, reducing their value.

Finally, in the case of more valuable classic 19th-century issues that may be stuck to old album pages, speak to a dealer about selling the stamps ''as is.'' Dealers can ask a professional to suggest the best method of lifting the stamps, and will be better able to judge the acidity of the album paper; such acidity damages stamps, and counteracting it is a job for a professional.

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10/19/2007 4:30 PM

Thanks, Techno, for the time you took for this detailed answer. I really appreciate your comments. I am going to do exactly what you suggested. However, I am going to take a short cut and see if you agree. Using your steam system technique, what if I put few stuck stamps sheet in the damp paper towel and put in the microwave oven and after 15 seconds check them if they are loose enough to be peeled apart. I am worried about soaking in the water as they will become too soft by absorbibg water and tear off then I lose the entire pane. What is you opinion about that?

If that does not work then I have no other option except to stand at the steaming pot on the stove in the kitchen.

I am not worried about the value of stamps as I am not in the selng business. This is to satisfy myself that I have every issue of every stamp that US postal office ever issued in last 30 years. Teenagers habits very seldom die no matter how old you become. I collect stamps, coins, pens, pencils, match boxes, paper napkins from restaurants, credit cards and any thing that I have some thing written on it like boarding passes that I have since last 30 to 35 years.

I am not a junk collector but like to have few things to think about where I was when I got this. Now I wish to have these stamps back to me as a single pane without losing the beauty and the luster.

I shall report back to you as to how successful I was or did I fall flat on my face.

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10/20/2007 9:01 AM

I had a simlar problem several years ago while living in a basement room. The suggestion at the time was to put the panes in the freezer. After a few hours I was able to split some of the panes, those panes that where partially stuck. I lost a few during this process and used them for postage. I still have the rest that are waiting for imaculate separation.

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10/22/2007 8:38 AM

Thanks, RLindey for the suggestion.

I shall try this one first as this is the easiest way of trying to peel them off.

Techno and Electro also responded with the following.

Next will be to put them in the wet/damp paper towel and steam them in the microwave oven for few seconds and check and redo.

Then I will go for the steaming standing at the stove with pan full with boiling water.

If all those above fail, them I will soak them in the water. I was told that it will greatly reduce the value bt it is not for sale but for my satisfaction so it does not matter. I just want them peeled apart with individual sheets and all stamps saved.

And this is mine:

"If all these options fail then I will curse for my stupidity that I was young, naive and more realistically an idiot to not consult some one for storing. Please, pleae do not tell me to try the last option as I know I did some thing very idiotic to not to take care of stamps earlier" and save the blob.

Thanks to all of those who responded and for all the suggestions. I am going to try to separate them this weekend and let y'all know the outcome. Please wish me luck.

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11/06/2007 4:12 PM

Please see my note of 11-01-2007 written to Techno and you all who responded to my problem.

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10/23/2007 1:44 PM

It was the humidity in the air that stuck them together in the first place. The safest would be the sweat box.

The Microwave sounds interesting, however, it would work better if you covered it with say an upside down Tupperware container to contain the steam / humidity.

Be aware, the paper may still be soft. General rule, don't force the stamps apart. Be gentile.

Be careful not to catch paper on fire.

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10/23/2007 3:38 PM

Splendid idea, Techno.

I will put the stamps in the damp paper towel, a few at a time and cover with the microwave splatterproof cover and watch the inside fog up and then stop and check. I shall be gentle and use twizzer to lift up one pane and see if it peels off. Thanks.

This weekend, this will be my task. Then go back to Jury duty selection.on 30th Oct. While sitting in the room, I will read the book titled; "Mafia Is Not An Equal Opportunity Employer" The court people will see me reading that book and for sure they will me throw me out. Then I will come back to work. I know it is shameful thing to say and run away from this honor but I just do not feel like gettinmg stuck in there for longer than I have to. So, I am hoping that I would not be selected and they will let me go soon very gracefully like they did last time and I did not have to read that.

I will respond to y'all on Wednesday next, Nov 1st.

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10/23/2007 3:47 PM

Let me know how it worked!

And when the crooks overrun your nebourhood.....and steal your stamp collection....you'll know you did your part for freedom!!

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10/23/2007 4:47 PM

I shall do that.

OK, now I will not hope to be thrown out. I shall do my patriotic duty with pleasure and pride and stay as long as it is needed.

Thanks for waking me up, neighbor.

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