UK Average Speed Cameras

I don't know but you can ask the question here....looks like a logo of some sort....

https://www.speedcamerasuk.com/average-speed-camera-questions.htm

Some seem to be the negative image...perhaps an older model...?

Coming soon to a revenue hungry U.S. highway near you?

(I hope not. But the local and state governments' insatiable appetite for our money is bound to make this a reality before long.

I've often wondered why they didn't do this on the N.J. Turnpike or any toll road with entrance & exit stations years ago. I guess that would have required calibration of the all the clocks at the various stations for court-worthy evidence. Now that's a trivial exercise with GPS, but wasn't necessarily true 30 years ago.)

I've often wondered why they didn't do this on the N.J. Turnpike or any toll road with entrance & exit stations years ago.

It's been a long time, but I seem to remember getting a time-stamped ticket when I got on and they checked that time when I paid to get off.

I suspect that most people are passing through and not local, so they would just pay up rather than go to court.

Likewise, I remember the time stamped paper ticket with the mag stripe on the back. Now with EZ-Cash I just go whizzing through and they automatically debit my account with the automatic credit card re-fresh. While I appreciate not having to stop and pay with cash, I'd much rather the authorities use the gas tax to pay for roads, rather than paying twice.

Frightening really. I am guessing EZ-cash is a 'voluntary' arrangement you chose for your own convenience - but fraught with 'danger' if it ever (when) if becomes compulsory to use the roads.

When accounts can be automatically debited simply by going past a camera, with your knowledge or not, (probably not!) so as to catch you out when in breach of some minor rule, by a trivial amount impossible for the driver to judge, but instantly calculated by the camera.

The first you know is when you get your bank statement.

We already have automatic number plate recognition in the UK. Introduced to catch 'untaxed' vehicles.....and of course nobody minds!...where separately offenders are chased by the 'police'

Once settled down and accepted, and purely guesswork on my part, I expect an option to have a much reduced price annual licence - but supplemented by a 'daily' charge (that must be linked to automatic fee collection) - then you are free to come and go as you please. What could be more convenient than that that!

But beware!, very 'soon' I expect an extra charge will happen for road use (in theory to reduce congestion delays) - initially with plenty of warning to plan journies ahead - but gradually phased out to 'instant' notice on overhead signs (giving the chance to leave at the next) exit. If you don't your account is debitted.

Except the usage charge can be varied to suit road conditions at the time - and almost impossible to predict - or avoid.

This is perfect from the revenue raising point of view - lots of minor charges varied by the minute (and by the mile) - an probably ignored if kept 'small' - being applied, not for congestion, but to catch as many drivers out as possible.

Many of the tollways in Aus have been privatised (Read "sold off") and so the charges are independent of registration and weight taxes. Claiming the "user pays" principal, with apps available to give instantaneous options for the charges that vary by time of day and in some cases direction of travel.

What happens though is that some locals get years of "amnesty" or refunds of their tolls while visitors or those passing through have no such option. In effect those from far away are subsidising the locals through the refunds that come from State government revenue.

Truthfully, the company that provides the toll collection hardware and transponders for the turnpike and toll facilities is a company called EZ-Pass. I'm just being snarky by calling it EZ-Cash because it makes it so easy for the agencies to collect our money.

They're doing us a favor by not making us stop to pay them money.

And now all those toll collectors are out of work. Along with the buggy whip makers and milk men. Oh, sorry. Dairy Delivery Expeditor.

I heard about someone who replaced his EZ-Pass tag and sent the old one back. It seems the mail truck passed through some toll gates and ran him up a bill...

"BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) – A Western New York man found his E-ZPass toll scanner kept charging him while it was being transported to be discarded.

John Smith got a shock when he swapped out his old E-ZPass tag for a new one-a charge of more than $15 on his old tag that he had shipped off to E-ZPass’s Customer Service Center on Staten Island..."

https://www.news10.com/news/new-e-zpass-tag-wrap-up-the-old-one/

If you send one back, wrap it in foil.

http://smarthighways.net/tag/vysionics/

While it may be a company logo, it also seems ideally placed for strengthening the bent tube against failure due to wind or fatigue.

In Aus, there are multiple average speed cameras that are targeted to the heavy vehicle operations on the major highways. Image recognition also monitors drivers in the rigs for time behind the wheel violations.

We do have "red light" cameras on some traffic lights and more recently mobile phone use detection cameras are now operating in some states. The laws here are that you cannot "touch" a phone while driving.

Some older regulations still recognise the right to ride a horse on the roads. A recent booking that took my fancy was for a rider using a mobile phone while riding along the street. I believe that he claimed he was operating an autonomous vehicle (the horse knew the way home and he wasn't using the reigns) and so he could do whatever he wanted! Still to go before the courts.

" . . .he claimed he was operating an autonomous vehicle (the horse knew the way home and he wasn't using the reigns) and so he could do whatever he wanted! Still to go before the courts."

I love it.

Yeah seems to me there will soon be cameras not just on the roadways but everywhere tracking our movement just like in China, and this seems too intrusive and violates the right to privacy...You have to ask yourself how long before it's 1984 and we are all under constant surveillance....we are nearly there now....What's worse is that it's likely that AI will be the one watching, and making decisions about our destiny that we no longer control....

Does that foretell a sales opportunity in one-way tickets to Mars?

There are no <...Average Speed Cameras...> on that particular journey!

Why do you think everybody came to America? To escape oppression....

"Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help!
I'm being repressed!"