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COVID-19

03/23/2020 12:20 PM

What's the probability or odds that this pandemic is not man-made?

Just by 2 decades, this almost similar and familiar virus re-occur.

If this comes back again by a year or 5 years, I think this virus is designed/man made by some dark elite secret institution.

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03/23/2020 12:28 PM

No...

..."As the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 spreads across the globe, with cases surpassing 284,000 worldwide today (March 20), misinformation is spreading almost as fast.

One persistent myth is that this virus, called SARS-CoV-2, was made by scientists and escaped from a lab in Wuhan, China, where the outbreak began.

A new analysis of SARS-CoV-2 may finally put that latter idea to bed. A group of researchers compared the genome of this novel coronavirus with the seven other coronaviruses known to infect humans: SARS, MERS and SARS-CoV-2, which can cause severe disease; along with HKU1, NL63, OC43 and 229E, which typically cause just mild symptoms, the researchers wrote March 17 in the journal Nature Medicine.

"Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus," they write in the journal article.

Kristian Andersen, an associate professor of immunology and microbiology at Scripps Research, and his colleagues looked at the genetic template for the spike proteins that protrude from the surface of the virus. The coronavirus uses these spikes to grab the outer walls of its host's cells and then enter those cells. They specifically looked at the gene sequences responsible for two key features of these spike proteins: the grabber, called the receptor-binding domain, that hooks onto host cells; and the so-called cleavage site that allows the virus to open and enter those cells.

That analysis showed that the "hook" part of the spike had evolved to target a receptor on the outside of human cells called ACE2, which is involved in blood pressure regulation. It is so effective at attaching to human cells that the researchers said the spike proteins were the result of natural selection and not genetic engineering.

Here's why: SARS-CoV-2 is very closely related to the virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), which fanned across the globe nearly 20 years ago. Scientists have studied how SARS-CoV differs from SARS-CoV-2 — with several key letter changes in the genetic code. Yet in computer simulations, the mutations in SARS-CoV-2 don't seem to work very well at helping the virus bind to human cells. If scientists had deliberately engineered this virus, they wouldn't have chosen mutations that computer models suggest won't work. But it turns out, nature is smarter than scientists, and the novel coronavirus found a way to mutate that was better — and completely different— from anything scientists could have created, the study found.

Another nail in the "escaped from evil lab" theory? The overall molecular structure of this virus is distinct from the known coronaviruses and instead most closely resembles viruses found in bats and pangolins that had been little studied and never known to cause humans any harm.

"If someone were seeking to engineer a new coronavirus as a pathogen, they would have constructed it from the backbone of a virus known to cause illness," according to a statement from Scripps.

Where did the virus come from? The research group came up with two possible scenarios for the origin of SARS-CoV-2 in humans. One scenario follows the origin stories for a few other recent coronaviruses that have wreaked havoc in human populations. In that scenario, we contracted the virus directly from an animal — civets in the case of SARS and camels in the case of Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS). In the case of SARS-CoV-2, the researchers suggest that animal was a bat, which transmitted the virus to another intermediate animal (possibly a pangolin, some scientists have said) that brought the virus to humans."....

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https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-not-human-made-in-lab.html

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03/24/2020 2:09 AM

I can't stop thinking MERS and SARS was the earlier test and simulation for this COVID-19. MERS can survive in hotter countries when SARS cant. Likewise, SARS infect only countries in colder region and short lived. Meanwhile, this COVID19, does not care anymore, either cold and hot regions. It is somewhat and improved version.

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03/24/2020 2:20 AM

Why would a country unleash a deadly virus on its own people? It makes no sense....Do you have any historic precedence? Country's don't just do crazy shit for no reason...And there is no such thing as a secret, sooner or later somebody always talks....You seem to have a sickness that compels you to believe crazy things that have no reason or purpose...Like 45...

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03/24/2020 8:06 AM

They are not a country. They are group of people whose purpose is control and manipulation of world market and masses.

Secret Society usually elites who pledges allegiance to their supreme master, Saturn/ Apollon/Mars/Satan.

They are the complete perversion of truth so knowing the light is knowing the darkness as well. Simply because they are the anti, perversion of truth.

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03/23/2020 10:44 PM

Perhaps in all health related issues, there have been the hand if humans directly or indirectly. If Covid 19 was engineered in a lab, there is definitely some humans behind, whatever be their ulterior motives .

Utopia, I am sorry to say, is Utopian .

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03/23/2020 11:27 PM

See link at: https://doctormurray.com/does-the-flu-shot-increase-covid-19-risk/

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03/23/2020 11:36 PM

I don't understand how an engineer could come to such a conclusion.

Pretty unlikely I'll engage in a debate over something like this other than to say that this sort of stuff doesn't help the good people in the world and belongs on a conspiracy theorist blog, not an engineering one.

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03/24/2020 2:03 AM

Do not ever underestimate the way engineers think. The truth has to come out.

Its always the bad men in this world who are the sneaky ones. They work in darkness, where no one sees. Manipulation and Control are their expertise. They are the real terrorist don't you think?

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03/24/2020 5:53 AM

Or maybe the 'bad men' are those who want to spread division and hatred and the 'good men' are those that always seek the best in people.

"Be shrewd as serpents yet innocent as doves" seems to me to be a better way rather than 'be like The Serpent / Deceiver / Satan' (or however you want to describe this conspiracy theory behavior as).

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03/24/2020 6:17 AM

What is to come is to come..the most important thing is you know whose side you are with.

I read something like

"The nations were angry,
and your wrath has come.
The time has come for judging the dead,
and for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your people who revere your name,
both great and small—
and for destroying THOSE WHO DESTROY THE EARTH."

Yes, it's them the "THOSE".

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03/24/2020 6:39 AM

Labelling as 'other', 'those', 'them' is the first step towards division, hatred, and conflict.

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03/24/2020 8:19 AM

You sounded like just one of them. Whose principles unites humanity with one world government and one world religion. Aren't you?

The tares and the wheat mixed up but they have a distinction. Like oil and water never mixed up.

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03/24/2020 7:33 AM

I'm probably more likely to overestimate engineer's abilities - call me biased.

Do I agree with your 2 baseless assertions? NO.

The truth is already out in the public domain, while the "truth" of your post is also out.

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03/24/2020 2:41 AM

Well said Sir. Couldn't agree more.

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03/24/2020 10:07 AM

The number of people who made a living "by the numbers" used and relied on those numbers, made sure people were safe by the numbers, then turn around and say and believe, let alone repeat, the most ridiculous, asinine, conspiratorial BS. It's no wonder that bridge in Miami collapsed. Thinking that far off the mark will sooner or later get so full of itself that it begins to ignore the numbers in favor of their own "testicular logic."

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03/24/2020 12:16 AM

It's a corona virus. It's as viruses go as common as the friggin cold virus. It mutates, it jumps the species barrier and it causes mass extinction of another species if it can. It doesn't care.

You can play the blame game all day long and it won't give a flying *^(*& what you think the motive was. It will infect and it will do so in a natural way.

I don't care to speculate on the possibility that some crazy people planned this epidemic. It serves no immediate purpose to do so. Instead, I am meeting it as it is and changing my behavior accordingly to survive it, and to assist my neighbors in surviving it as well.

IF there was a plan, and IF there was a motive, then I will deal with those bastards later, AFTER me and my neighbors survive this insidious BS. (*&)(*&(* 'em!

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03/24/2020 7:39 AM

This came up years ago, especially in relation to killing off the old folk.

The Speaker in this case didn't answer the question, but asked if I was a Young Conservative. Those young conservatives are now those controlling the levers in the UK.

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03/24/2020 10:04 AM

NOT HELPING

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03/24/2020 10:32 AM

Or maybe things like this have always been happening. Maybe this is why some ancient civilizations seemed to just stop existing. Travel is also light years ahead of what it was just a few decades ago. Spread of disease isn't so regional anymore, it's worldwide.

Perhaps we should put efforts into stopping it and trying to be safe and healthy rather than taking time to place blame. As others have said, that can come later. Honestly, I doubt we will ever know for sure where it came from exactly.

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