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Creating 0.7 MW -1 MW Wind Turbines for Less then 40,000 USD

01/03/2021 1:24 PM

4-5 meter per second wind speed needed

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Re: I can create 0.7mw-1mw wind turbines for less then 40000usd per unit

01/03/2021 2:14 PM

How much for siting, permitting, erection, and wiring into the local grid? What about yearly maintenance costs and design life? Where is your proven track record? What is the typical payback period? Government subsidies?

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01/03/2021 4:22 PM

Honestly given that It can produce a kilowatt-hour potentially for 0.001522 if you only calculate it's operating capacity for two years the cost of maintenance is probably less than 8000 depending on what country you're in every two 2 to 3 years a life expectancy of 20 you're basically producing power cheaper than any potential solar plant could or coal power plant Buy redundant mining equipment for pennies instead of tieing it to the grid

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Re: I can create 0.7mw-1mw wind turbines for less then 40000usd per unit

01/03/2021 3:40 PM

Most of the engineering for my designs has been around for the last 40 odd years i'm planning to build it into a Bitcoin mining facility as a way of cost-effectively building it initially

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01/03/2021 3:45 PM

I'm planning on building it in the EU Georgia low the Corruption index low average wage I should be able to produce it way cheaper there than any other country i'm only planning to spend 11000 and I'm building at half scale

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01/03/2021 3:46 PM

I'm planning on building it in the EU Georgia low the Corruption index low average wage I should be able to produce it way cheaper there than any other country i'm only planning to spend 11000 and I'm building at half scale

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Re: I can create 0.7mw-1mw wind turbines for less then 40000usd per unit

01/03/2021 3:41 PM

Most of the engineering for my designs has been around for the last 40 odd years i'm planning to build it into a Bitcoin mining facility as a way of cost-effectively building it initially

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01/03/2021 3:47 PM

I'm planning on building it in the EU Georgia low the Corruption index low average wage I should be able to produce it way cheaper there than any other country i'm only planning to spend 11000 and I'm building at half scale

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01/03/2021 3:55 PM

Certain parts would need to be changed out every 2 years it's capable of generating a megawatt at 5 meters per second so you know it doesn't actually take up a lot of land space as well one more thing is it's all about a cost effective watt efficiency doesn't so much matter construction is relatively easy

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01/03/2021 3:49 PM

milliwhat?

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01/03/2021 4:02 PM

already done preliminary calculations on the cost of materials from Alibaba I do a lot of e-commerce I understand the cost better than most people i've also designed around the parameters of reducing shipping volume

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01/03/2021 4:04 PM

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01/03/2021 4:32 PM

So you know the power cost would probably be around this 0.000639 per kilowatt-hour over a 20 year lifespan

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01/03/2021 7:11 PM

..."A typical commercial wind turbine costs around USD3-4 million to build and produces around two megawatts (“Mw”) of electricity. "....

https://marketcap.com.au/true-cost-wind-power/

..."Wind energy pricing remains attractive, according to a report released by the U.S. Department of Energy and prepared by Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab). With prices averaging below 2 cents per kilowatt-hour (kWh) for newly built projects, wind is competitive with other generation sources.Aug 26, 2019"...

https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2019/08/26/report-confirms-wind-technology-advancements-continue-to-drive-down-the-cost-of-wind-energy/#:~:text=Wind%20energy%20pricing%20remains%20attractive,competitive%20with%20other%20generation%20sources.

https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2019/08/26/report-confirms-wind-technology-advancements-continue-to-drive-down-the-cost-of-wind-energy/

..."Bigger turbines are enhancing wind project performance.

The average generating capacity of newly installed wind turbines in the United States in 2018 was 2.4 MW, up 239% since 1998-1999. The average rotor diameter was 116 meters, up 141% over 1998-1999, while the average hub height was 88 meters, up 57% since 1998-1999. Permit applications suggest that much-taller turbines are on the way. Increased rotor diameters, in particular, have boosted wind project capacity factors in recent years. The average 2018 capacity factor among projects built from 2014 through 2017 was 42%, compared to an average of 31% among projects built from 2004 to 2011, and 24% among projects built from 1998 to 2001."....

Remember the capacity factor....you don't seem to be accounting for the capacity factor....Your installed capacity is not the actual realized output, it's going to be less than half, probably around 30%, unless you are in a perfect location...So when you quote the price per kwh of installed capacity, this is misleading because it only puts out about a third of that....so in reality you can multiply your installed cost per kwh by 3....so not the rosy picture they paint...add the unreliability to the equation, and the dream falls apart at the seams....

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01/03/2021 7:24 PM

..."A Bergey residential wind turbine costs approximately $65,000 – 95,000 to install. "..

...."Our 10 kW unit, the BWC EXCEL 10, is the best-selling residential unit in the U.S. It has a rotor diameter of 23 feet and is typically installed on 80 or 100 foot towers. "...

http://www.bergey.com/products/grid-tied-turbines/excel-15/

http://www.bergey.com/wind-school/residential-wind-energy-systems/

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01/04/2021 6:19 AM

Another thing is your product is used

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01/03/2021 7:36 PM

Used 180kw wind turbine generator and tower (28 meters)...

MADE (GAMESA) AE23 Wind Turbine Generator 180kw, 28 Meter tower

$69,000.00 free pickup

Can be delivered on 3 flatbed semi trucks

" We can supply an inverter package for an additional $20,000 to tie to a 60Hz USA grid or to run stand alone off grid. "...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MADE-GAMESA-AE23-Wind-Turbine-Generator-180kw-28-Meter-tower-On-or-Off-Grid-/143598055827?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10

So you'll need to pay shipping costs, permitting and land, and of course you will need to build a base for the tower...

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01/04/2021 6:14 AM

And so you know your 180 Kw of usable energy at 5 meters per second It's more likely to be a third of the capacity of the maximum output Your maximum efficiency would only be achieved very irregularly

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01/04/2021 3:17 AM

Further to SolarEagle's comments, a little breakdown of costs would be interesting. For example, I see that a 1MW wind turbine's tower requires around 130m³ (170 cu yard) of concrete for the foundation/base, and it seems that concrete goes for around $113/cu yard - that gives us $19k just for the concrete (you still have to add the steelwork/reinforcing, excavation and labour costs - it seems that foundations account for 6-7% of total costs). Of course, this depends on terrain, as sometimes piles can be more cost effective.

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01/04/2021 6:06 AM

OK so you know the 40000 includes inverters concrete all the labor costs required to install it the total package basically minus grid-tie

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01/04/2021 5:32 PM

So show us your material list and sources....and we'll show you where you are wrong...

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01/04/2021 9:01 PM

My calculations for materials have been done with about probably 3 x structural strength needed honestly I'd have to be brain dead to use 40000

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01/04/2021 6:09 AM

Everything required for stable output is provided my cost worked out to be around $32,000 I've actually found it hard to find a reason as to why I would spend 40000

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01/04/2021 4:46 AM

Deep joy. A pint of keggy brewflade, please.

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01/04/2021 4:53 PM

...and I would like to purchase a Brand New "S Class" Mercedes for $100 also

You cannot even purchase a used 0.1 MW (100 kw) wind turbine for $40K !!!

This website is just one example of the used market:

https://www.machinio.com/wind-turbines/united-states#results

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01/04/2021 8:53 PM

I'll let you know when the patent goes through honestly I was hoping somebody could provide me a competing technology

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01/04/2021 9:07 PM

Once I'm covered by my patent I'll be sure to send you through the details

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01/05/2021 7:38 AM

I won't hold my breath....

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01/05/2021 3:42 AM

Please, please please can you let me know what it is that you are smoking.

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01/17/2021 10:17 PM

As others have said this seems incredibly low. Really unbelievably low.

Can you please post a really rough itemised breakdown as to how you managed to get your system costs so (theoretically) insanely low.

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