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Selective Reset of Toggle Devices

11/13/2007 11:15 AM

I am designing a machine that uses three, spring loaded toggle devices that are arranged horizontally in line. Each device acts independently of the other two, and only one device is actuated at any given time. The forces acting on any one device are vertical; a downward manual force causes toggling against a stop while an upward force will reset the device past toggle against another stop. The total vertical distance traveled is about 1 inch. The vertical reset force needed to go past toggle will be at least 100 pounds.

My challenge is with the means to reset past toggle. An initial manual action by a human (pushing on a foot pedal) needs to activate some type of electrical device (linear actuator, gear motor, clutch/brake, solenoid, etc.) that will complete the resetting action, eliminating a continuous manual input. However, if the electric reset function is disabled for any reason, the toggle reset must be completed by continuing the manual force input. Keep in mind that whenever any one of the three toggle devices is reset the other two will not be reset.

I would like to be able to use one electrical device to provide the power for resetting the three toggle devices. This solution could become very mechanically complex. An alternative would be to use an individual electrical device for each toggle reset. This solution could become too expensive. There's always a trade off.

I would welcome any comments and suggestions on how to approach a design solution for this machine. Thank you.

tightwoods

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Re: Selective Reset of Toggle Devices

11/13/2007 3:35 PM

I'm thinking of something like a car brake servo assist?

The big question is really...can you design out this requirement in a simple way? Or to put it another way...are you solving the core problem or are you solving what you think needs solving...

Dunno if that makes sense?

I always say ..what the customer wants, needs, and thinks he needs are often 3 entirely different things.

So what I'm trying to say is..are you sure that is what you relly need?

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Re: Selective Reset of Toggle Devices

11/13/2007 3:40 PM

I agree with Del. Are the mechanical toggle switches a design requirement? Can you replace with a momentary push button tied to a latching circuit? That would make reset extremely simple. If you need visible indication of each switch's state, an indicating lamp should do the trick.

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11/13/2007 4:05 PM

Good points, Del! While the actual design of this machine can be anything it needs to be the basic functionality needs to remain roughly as I have described. I know it might all make more sense if I told you exactly how this machine will be used but the customer won't let me reveal its exact purpose.

CSM - These toggle devices are not switches! They are similar to a Destaco clamp in size and function. While toggled up they support a physical load of at least 100 pounds. The magnitude of the load that they can support is adjustable via changing the spring tension pushing against the toggle link. When that load increases beyond the preset, the load drops down suddenly as the toggle device moves past toggle. A momentary push button/latching circuit would certainly work here. Once again, I need to reset these toggle devices electrically (pneumatics are not an option. air cylinders would be so EZ!) with a manual "backup".

Who knows, maybe this design will morph into something completely different than what the customer or myself have envisioned so far. Thanks for your input!

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11/14/2007 8:15 AM

Why not consider high lift cams individual or on a common shaft, with a geared drive you can exert plenty of force these could be synchronised in many ways to actuate your toggles.

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11/14/2007 12:53 PM

Why not consider high lift cams individual or on a common shaft, with a geared drive you can exert plenty of force these could be synchronised in many ways to actuate your toggles.

Thanks Garth! I'll noodle it.

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