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Darwin or the Devil?

12/01/2007 6:50 AM

Hi all, Just read this article about how a poll of just under 2,500 Americans revealed more believe in the devil than in evolution.

This , as is pointed out in the article, is a big surprise as USA is seen as having contributed to some excellent science. Apparently there is quite some doubt going around about Darwin's theories and I was just wondering how this article stands up to scrutiny from us.

In other words is this true?

Or you could also ask what if the Darwin theory was conceived by an American, would it be better received now?

I am just playing the devil's advocate here (sorry for the pun) and all I am interested in is a good debate.

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12/05/2007 8:05 PM

Speaking of Darwin, John, that is, it appears there was quite a retirement scheme he worked out with his wife.

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12/06/2007 4:11 AM

Yup they seem to have managed to screw up a perfectly good plan..

Cold feet? (Caused by paddling in the North Atlantic?)

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12/06/2007 1:03 PM

He sure did look plenty sunshine toasted, though.

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01/24/2008 10:28 AM

Regarding your question of how Darwin's ideas would have been received if had been an American: I recently discovered that there WAS an American author, James Stanley Grimes, who published a full-blown theory of evolution by natural selection in 1850. (I am currently preparing an article on the subject for publication.) So far as I can tell, Grimes received a far more hostile and dismissive reaction from his fellow Americans than Darwin did from his fellow Englishmen; the greatest American naturalist of the time, Louis Aggasiz, advised Grimes to suppress the book. (Agassiz would later become Darwin's greatest opponent in the United States). What all of this suggests is that Darwin's thoery would NOT have received a more generous reception if he had been an American; possibly it would have been received with even greater hostility. I just thought I would mention this, since I saw the topic brought up here.

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01/24/2008 11:45 AM

Louis Aggasiz, advised Grimes to suppress the book. (Agassiz would later become Darwin's greatest opponent in the United States)

No, he was too busy with ball psychology to do that.

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01/24/2008 4:23 PM

Q. What about the Soviet fella who pioneered the subject way, way back int the middle ages?

A. The October Revolution only started in 1917

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