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Galactic seasons?

12/14/2022 7:57 AM

Do galaxies have seasons,like planets?I know they would be very long term in the range of hundreds of millions of years.

It takes about 200 million Earth years for our galaxy to rotate once,and others much longer.

Can this "season" affect the stars and planets within it,causing so far unknown effects on our own planet,like perhaps weather,etc?

It is understood that cosmic rays have an effect on cloud formation,so who knows what other effects are so far undetected?

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/climate-change/scientists-find-evidence-cosmic-rays-influence-earth-s-climate-65436

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Re: Galactic seasons?

12/14/2022 8:48 AM

The stars in the galaxy revolve about the galaxy center with orbits that pass above and below the galactic plane, and there are theories that ice ages on earth may correspond to these passages.

Ice ages linked to galactic position / Study finds Earth may be cooled by movement through Milky Way's stellar clouds (sfgate.com)

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12/14/2022 9:33 AM

One thing sticks out in my mind,is how quickly the climate has changed in the past frozen mammoths discovered in Siberia with fresh dandelions in their stomach indicates that it can happen very quickly.How else to explain this?

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12/14/2022 2:08 PM

That's pretty brutal climate change to freeze a huge animal before it could digest its lunch!

Perhaps it was killed by an ice comet...

Of Flash Frozen Mammoths and Cosmic Catastrophes -- Earth Changes -- Sott.net

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12/14/2022 6:02 PM

After reading your link, it seems even more rapid.

Dandelions in their mouth.It happened before they could even swallow.

A very good link,worth the read.GA from me!

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12/14/2022 10:22 AM

As a layman, one has to define ‘seasons’.

For myself, a definition, there are ‘dust clouds,’ within the galaxy that the stars and its planets orbits through, where it would diminish the about of sunlight that would get through the planets that orbits around the star. And has a cooling effect, with a possible ice age…

which may be a possible answer to your post #2.

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12/14/2022 4:17 PM

To my knowledge there are no perfectly round orbits, so if we take all the variables involved here we can see that there is possibly quite a bit of influence on orbits with so many involved....I guess that's how some stars get ejected across the galaxy and possibly into deep space...Gravitational forces seem to be in constant flux, at least at some level...

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12/14/2022 5:06 PM

I believe that orbital accelerations are much different from what we observe, measure and understand. Would one describe a season as a solar system property? Or a planetary property? Does the moon have seasons? The moon also has 4 seasons, relative to the earth, not the sun. A season is caused by the crossover of the orbital plane. The crossovers always comes in pairs. Planets and planet moons all have 4 seasons....and two crossovers. The ringlets have many, many crossovers relative the their orbital plane. That's because they rotate many times during 1 orbit. Helical orbits. The planets and moons have only 2 crossovers because they only rotate one time during their orbit. These rotations are perpendicular to the orbit.

Sol might have many many crossovers while in galactic orbit. Like a ringlet. Sol's crossover might occur much more often the imagined. Maybe even every 11 or 22 years. The sun spins as it orbits. Not the rotation of the sun, the rotation of it's trajectory. An orbit is a rotation within a rotation. Two angular accelerations. The galactic plane is not a plane, it's plane waves. A bee line from here to center of milky way....is not the galactic plane. That plane waves as it turns. It's not fixed, like the sun's plane is. When our sun spins, it takes all the system with it. Hard to detect. It's like the forward acceleration of our system, it affects all in the same manner and not detected. And proving very hard to measure. The true length of a star's orbit can not be determined. And therefore, the velocity and the momentum can not be determined. We can only measure 2D(X,Y) at a distance. But the trajectory is in 3D. We can't measure the missing Z displacement. Which has fooled us with planet orbits.

This is what I see, but all see differently.

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12/14/2022 5:31 PM

The plane of the milky way probably does not have a fixed center of g like our system. And if that cg shifts faster than the outer orbits, then we would get the same effect as ringlets, only not because of orbits crossovers, but because of the c of g flicker. Opposite motion....same effect. Only it's the plane that crossovers.

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12/14/2022 5:52 PM

There might be a "star season gradient" along the radius of the galaxy. Due to the center flicker and the period of a star's orbit.

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12/15/2022 12:38 PM

What a far out question! This link may not answer it, but is somewhat relevant to the thread:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2019/01/03/earth-is-drifting-away-from-the-sun-and-so-are-all-the-planets/?sh=db4bbb06f7d3

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12/17/2022 7:07 AM

" If you imagine looking down on the Milky Way, the Sun is located nearly 27,000 light-years from the center, about halfway between the center and the edge of our disk-shaped galaxy. Looking from the side, the disk is relatively flat and the Sun is currently located about 55 light-years above the plane of the galaxy’s disk. Over time, the Sun orbits the center of the galaxy, sketching out a roughly circular path (again, looking down from above) that takes about 230 million years to complete at a speed of about 137 miles (220 kilometers) per second.

With respect to its own axis of rotation, the Sun is moving through the galaxy tipped at an angle of about 60° from the galactic plane. This also applies to the planets orbiting the Sun — just like the disk of our galaxy, if you were to look at our solar system from the side, the planets orbit the Sun in a relatively flat plane. Essentially, the Sun and the plane in which the bodies of the solar system orbit around it are both tilted forward by 60° as they move through the galaxy.
It’s perhaps also worth noting that the Sun doesn’t appear to trace a flat circle — in one plane only — as it moves around the galaxy. The Sun actually appears to bob up and down through the disk (we are up right now, above the plane of the disk) as it moves, with a period of about 60 million years."

https://www.astronomy.com/magazine/ask-astro/2020/07/in-which-direction-does-the-sun-move-through-the-milky-way

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

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12/21/2022 8:55 AM

I know this may seem far,far out,but hey,that is where I roll,on the fringes.(Sometimes I even fall over the edge... The fall doesn't hurt,but that sudden stop is somewhat painful).

It is known that cosmic rays affect cloud formation, a recent discovery,but other effects are unknown.

Thoughts are ,after all a chemical process at their root.

And cosmic rays can modify chemical reactions.

Perhaps they have a heretofore undiscovered effect on intelligence or personalities?

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12/21/2022 9:04 AM

as we’re on the ‘far, far out machine’.

it interesting when its discovered in the permafrost mammoth, that basically froze to death, yet, it had tropical type plants in their stomach.

a quick and unverified search result

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12/21/2022 12:25 PM

How about this:

https://www.grunge.com/364635/the-500-year-old-map-that-shows-antarctica-without-snow-and-ice/

There is no telling what was lost in the burning of the library of Alexandria.

We possibly could be hundreds of years more advanced than we are now if it had been preserved.

On the scale of the Earth's age,there is plenty of time for advanced civilizations to rise and disappear.

Perhaps some of the UFO's are history buffs or tourists revisiting their origins.?

With water making up around 70% of the area of the globe,why should we be believe that land animals evolved sentient beings first?

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12/21/2022 12:53 PM

It’s the loss at Alexandria and (here’s where the D.Q.’s gets upset) along with the Catholic Church suppression of science.

It’s interesting, as I understand it, Alaxandria, was a trading port as well as a depository of information.

I thought or believed one requirement at Alexandria was when traders would tie up your ship in its port was you had to give them, a book, scribe or manuscript, but I could not find anything that would back that up.

the other requirement they aggressively went to purchase items for the library.

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12/21/2022 7:53 PM

I read the same thing somewhere,but cannot remember exactly where.I think it was in a Carl Sagan program.

There is also the mystery of the Antikythera mechanism,that was far beyond the known technology of the times.

There are strong clues of a previous advanced civilization.

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12/22/2022 7:59 AM

I think it was Carl Sagan.

as far as the Artikythera mechanism. There was a follow, that reproduced it, using the tools at the time. Very meticulous…

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12/22/2022 8:23 AM

I saw that program,but there are still functions of the mechanism that are not understood.

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