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Trees Make Clouds

09/30/2023 4:06 PM

..."Trees make clouds by releasing small quantities of vapors called “sesquiterpenes.”

EVERY YEAR BETWEEN September and December, Lubna Dada makes clouds. Dada, an atmospheric scientist, convenes with dozens of her colleagues to run experiments in a 7,000-gallon stainless steel chamber at CERN in Switzerland. “It's like science camp,” says Dada, who studies how natural emissions react with ozone to create aerosols that affect the climate.

Clouds are the largest source of uncertainty in climate predictions. Depending on location, cloud cover can reflect sunlight away from land and ocean that would otherwise absorb its heat—a rare perk in the warming world. But clouds can also trap heat over Arctic and Antarctic ice. Scientists want to know more about what causes clouds to form, and if that effect is cooling or heating. And most of all, says Dada, “We want to know how we humans have changed clouds.”

In the sky, aerosol particles attract water vapor or ice. When the tiny wet globs get large enough, they become seeds for clouds. Half of Earth’s cloud cover forms around stuff like sand, salt, soot, smoke, and dust. The other half nucleates around vapors released by living things or machines, like the sulfur dioxide that arises from burning fossil fuels.

At CERN, scientists replicate that process by injecting the steel chamber with vapors that represent specific environments. (It’s called the CLOUD chamber, for Cosmics Leaving Outdoor Droplets.) For example, they can mimic the gases found above cities. But Dada, who normally works at the Paul Scherrer Institute in Switzerland, went to CERN to peer into the past. Her team of scientists from around the world wanted to recreate the air above forests, because a “pristine” atmosphere hints at what cloud formation was like before industrialization. “We need this comparison to the time when there were no human emissions,” she says, “so we can fix our climate models.”

In a paper published this month in Science Advances, Dada’s team establishes a new heavy hitter in cloud creation: a kind of chemical released by trees. Trees emit natural volatiles like isoprene and monoterpenes, which can spark cloud-forming chemical reactions. Dada’s new work focuses on an overlooked class of less abundant volatiles called sesquiterpenes, which smell woody, earthy, citrusy, or spicy, depending on the molecule and type of plant or microbe that emits them.

The team shows that sesquiterpenes are more effective than expected for seeding clouds. A mere 1-to-50 ratio of sesquiterpene to other volatiles doubled cloud formation."...

https://www.wired.com/story/a-revelation-about-trees-is-messing-with-climate-calculations/

Yet another reason to plant more trees...

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09/30/2023 10:20 PM

That's why there is a silver lining in that cloud of smoke emanating from Canada this past summer.

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10/01/2023 12:36 PM

In the early days of atomic research, much use was made of the cloud (not an acronym) chamber for making visible the tracks of the fundamental particles in magnetic fields.

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10/01/2023 2:45 PM

I've noticed in early mornings the fog laying in fields. I'm wondering if it's this same phenomenon.

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10/01/2023 9:19 PM

I guess you could smell it and see if any odor of these 'penes is present...but there are probably any number of volatile compounds that could be responsible, or at least contributable...I think those forest fires up in Canada are contributing to all this rainfall we are getting...

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10/02/2023 10:23 PM

While Canada experiences fires every summer, this year's blazes have scorched at least 15.3 million hectares (37.8 million acres) of land, nearly 10 times more than 2022 and roughly the size of New York state.Aug 23, 2023

Robert Scheller, a professor of forestry and environmental resources and the associate dean for research at the NC State College of Natural Resources, said Canada's wildfires are being fueled by warmer-than-average temperatures and drought conditions.Jul 19, 2023

Much of Canada has seen abnormally dry - or worse - conditions. Atlantic Canada received low snowfall this winter, followed by an exceptionally dry spring. Most of the wildfires are believed to have been accidentally caused by human activity.Aug 19, 2023

"A lot of that forest is remote, untouched wilderness, and it's very difficult to manage wildfire in those areas where there is no road access or any of the infrastructure needed to support firefighting activity."Jul 21, 2023

From the beginning of May through to June 19, 2023, an analysis by The Narwhal of data from the Canadian Interagency Forest Fire Centre shows 34 per cent of the fires started in that period were from lightning, 40 per cent from human causes and 26 per cent were still undetermined.Jun 27, 2023

Canadian smoke plume...

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10/03/2023 11:11 PM

I live literally in the shadow of the Blue Ridge Mountains in the Shenandoah Valley. They are called the Blue Ridge because of the blue haze that hangs over and around the ridge line over most of the spring and fall, only disappearing when the leaves turn.

I read 10 or more years ago a report that attributes that haze to tree emissions. I wonder if those emissions are the same as those reported above. I don't remember the details I read.

Anyway those mountains were named for their haze long before there could have been an effect contributed to by man. Why do these people have to find a human influence in everything? Is that the only way they can get funding nowadays????

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10/04/2023 1:59 PM

In a word, yes.

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10/04/2023 2:57 PM

Yeah, sad state of affairs, ain't it?

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12/08/2023 1:48 AM

The contrary belief, That the ecosystem is so huge that it is impossible for us mere humans to influence it seems to be attractive to many people. I'm starting to hope that we actually can influence it and wish we'd get to it sooner rather than later.

I remember in Thermodynamics we got to assume the 500 degree oven we placed our "spherical turkey" in never lost a degree of temperature either to the "bird" or to the kitchen. Not so in reality. The earth's ability to give us what we want and capacity to absorb what we humans give off is actually limited.

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12/08/2023 8:49 PM

I have no doubt we humans can affect ecosystems on a micro level but not on the macro level the doomsayers are saying will kill us in 10 years (which updates every year or two).

Mom Nature, or Gaia if you prefer, has a lot of feedback mechanisms to set things right. And sometimes that even means species extinction. Which, btw, does not exclude humans.

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10/05/2023 9:54 PM

So, is the reason for the production of sesquiterpenes by the trees to attract rainfall? Evolution acts in strange ways...

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10/06/2023 2:43 AM

I was thinking it was to control sunlight...but maybe it's just a waste product...more reading needed I guess...

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10/06/2023 8:14 PM

Maybe that's why there are floods all over the world. Trust mankind to meddle with the weather.

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10/07/2023 6:22 PM

Yeah, don't try to fool Mother Nature.

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