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Can Aluminum Shield Magnetic Fields?

06/07/2024 4:39 AM

Say I have built a simple working 9V/9V AC 50 Hz transformer. It has two copper coils 50 turns each at each end of a soft iron rod. It is able to light up a 9V bulb.

Now if I can slip an aluminum tube over the soft iron rod and the copper coils now are over the aluminum tube, can this still work as a transformer?

Would not the aluminum tube block the magnetic fields?

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06/07/2024 11:04 AM

Yes, this can still work as a transformer. However, many unspecified and unmeasured parameters will determine how much less efficiently will this new transformer work. The magnetic permeability of Aluminum is about 5000 times less than iron but the closed conductive loops of an aluminum tube (and the iron rod) will convert some of the electrical energy into heat.

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Re: Can Aluminum Shield Magnetic Fields?

06/07/2024 11:13 AM

If you wind the secondary over the primary, then it should work. This should also work if the core is a wood dowel.

A straight rod is sort of the ultimate transformer air gap, I guess.

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06/08/2024 12:39 AM

Now I understand. The wood dowel make things clear.

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Re: Can Aluminum Shield Magnetic Fields?

06/07/2024 5:48 PM

The aluminum tube doesn't block the magnetic field. Putting the aluminum tube over the iron rod adds an additional secondary - a low resistance, single-turn shorted coil made out of the aluminum tube. Part of your energy from the primary is wasted, generating current in the aluminum tube.

"Two coils on an iron rod" is not a very efficient design for a transformer. The magnetic flux has to travel through an air gap, a high resistance (reluctance) for magnetism.

A better design is a complete magnetic circuit (iron all the way) for the flux passing through both coils, as shown in the picture below. Note that the iron is not solid but made of laminated sheets which are electrically insulated. Laminations prevent eddy currents in the core, which also waste energy just as does the current in your aluminum tubing.

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06/08/2024 12:42 AM

Thanks. I have not thought of the aluminum tube as an extra short-circuited turn of conductor wasting power.

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06/08/2024 9:34 AM

The iron core is a questionable choice, use a ferrite rod from an old radio for better result.

As other have said, the open magnetic loop (long airgap) will require an enormous amount of turns to increase the primary magnetizing inductance.

As for you aluminium protection tubing, if you must use it instead of plastic, cut a slit along its length to open up the circuit and avoid shorting your transformer.

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06/08/2024 10:16 AM

Thanks for the hints. My original post was just to ask about introducing the aluminum tube. Indeed it would short - may destroy - the primary windings as the single turn has very low resistance/impedance.

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07/17/2024 10:46 PM

I doubt the value of the ferrite from an old radio will be of much value at 50Hz. If you have ever tried to make a balun the results with different ferrite rings is quite noticeable due to their permeability.

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06/11/2024 1:07 PM

Aluminum can partially block magnetic fields, but it is not as effective as materials like iron or steel. While aluminum itself is not magnetic, it does conduct electricity, which allows it to interact with magnetic fields to some extent.

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07/17/2024 10:49 PM

Aluminium is not a very good magnetic shield.

For your project you would be better off using and old E core out of a donor transformer from a plugpack, they are designed to work at mains frequency 50/60Hz. If magnetic shielding is required then put it into a steel box.

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07/18/2024 10:55 AM

Why not use a toroidal transformer, it's self shielding.

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