Previous in Forum: Gas Valve   Next in Forum: URANUS flatulence-is there a comedian in the audience?
Close
Close
Close
17 comments
Guru

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK
Posts: 5786
Good Answers: 314

Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/08/2024 11:32 AM

Why do some power switches appear to have two current ratings like this one.

I can't find this switch so I'm trying to find as close an equivalent to replace it.

__________________
We are alone in the universe, or, we are not. Either way it's incredible... Adapted from R. Buckminster Fuller/Arthur C. Clarke
Register to Reply
Pathfinder Tags: power switch rating
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

Comments rated to be "almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, rate them!
Guru

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: About 4000 miles from the center of the earth (+/-100 mi)
Posts: 9712
Good Answers: 1113
#1

Re: Why do some power switches appear to have two current ratings.

11/08/2024 12:43 PM

Maybe its lower for an inductive load.

Register to Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - Been there, done that. Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 15494
Good Answers: 957
#2

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/08/2024 1:54 PM

My WAG would be the two current ratings reflect the type of load the switch is controlling. The higher number is the maximum current for a purely resistive load (i.e. lighting) while the lower number is for a reactive load (motor).

__________________
"Don't disturb my circles." translation of Archimedes last words
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33172
Good Answers: 1804
#3

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/08/2024 2:32 PM

This seems like a per pole rating, 7 amps per pole on a 2 pole switch....

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33172
Good Answers: 1804
#4
In reply to #3

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/08/2024 4:37 PM

It could be a universal type switch that is rated for 14 amps@120v or 7 amps@240v ...the 1680 watts would be the same....

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Replacement-Switch-A250VAC-Powerdash-FH50700/dp/B0BXYYWC77

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Guru
Australia - Member - New Member

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 2167
Good Answers: 253
#5

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/08/2024 7:26 PM

Maybe 7A switch load and 14A conducting with separate isolation.

__________________
Just an Engineer from the land down under.
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 1240
Good Answers: 88
#6

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/08/2024 10:57 PM

Maybe the application might give us a clue. Never seen anything as cryptic as that.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK
Posts: 5786
Good Answers: 314
#8
In reply to #6

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/09/2024 8:49 AM

It's the power switch for a friends vacuum cleaner. Most of the possible "bodge in replacements" seem to have similar looking specs., but, I can't enhance the pictures in the adverts enough to read them. None of them have specs. because they are all advertised as replacements for specific machines.

The odd thing about the old switch is that the spade terminals come "out of the ends":

I would just bodge it with a toggle switch, but, my friend wants it to be compatible with the existing push button in the case of the machine.

The cleaner is a ProAction BC-230, seems to be incredibly powerful for a tiny machine.

__________________
We are alone in the universe, or, we are not. Either way it's incredible... Adapted from R. Buckminster Fuller/Arthur C. Clarke
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33172
Good Answers: 1804
#10
In reply to #8

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/09/2024 3:26 PM
__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33172
Good Answers: 1804
#11
In reply to #10

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/10/2024 1:07 AM

So it appears the different ratings for amps/voltage are the different specification approvals for different agencies in different countries probably....

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33172
Good Answers: 1804
#12
In reply to #11

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/10/2024 1:36 AM

Remember to actually test the switch before replacing it...your brushes could be worn out, or you might have a dead spot on the commutator surface....

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK
Posts: 5786
Good Answers: 314
#15
In reply to #12

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/11/2024 8:01 AM

It's definitely the switch, and, just the mechanical operation of it.

My friend has discovered that he can repeatedly "stab" the button very fast about 5 or 7 times, and get it to stay on. I pointed out that he could probably leave it on, and, turn it off and on at the wall socket: we tried it and it worked.

(I even suggested a make do solution using a blue tooth remote controlled wall plug/socket.)

__________________
We are alone in the universe, or, we are not. Either way it's incredible... Adapted from R. Buckminster Fuller/Arthur C. Clarke
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: 44.56024"N 15.307971E
Posts: 7758
Good Answers: 264
#17
In reply to #12

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/15/2024 6:44 AM

FYI:(side note):probably OT,but I could not edit that option when I edited it.

Do not clean this commutator!

Most people try to get a perfectly shiny commutator.

The color is perfect for a healthy commutator.If it is bright and shiny,the brushes are too aggressive.If totally black,the brushes are too soft.The only case when a shiny armature is desirable is after turning and undercutting of the armature.

Of course,if it is deeply grooved,or has shiny streaks, it needs to be turned down and undercut.I have seen literally hundreds of industrial DC motors and have been to a factory where brushes are manufactured.There is more to a commutator and brushes than meets the eye.A lot more.My son has a co-patent on one of the machines in a brush manufacturing plant used to make brushes.

__________________
"A man never stands so tall as when he stoops to help a child." "Never argue with a stupid person.They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" "Homo homini lupus"
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK
Posts: 5786
Good Answers: 314
#14
In reply to #11

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/11/2024 7:28 AM

Thanks again: that looks like the explanation.

__________________
We are alone in the universe, or, we are not. Either way it's incredible... Adapted from R. Buckminster Fuller/Arthur C. Clarke
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK
Posts: 5786
Good Answers: 314
#13
In reply to #10

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/11/2024 7:27 AM

Thanks Solar: brilliant find; by searching for KAN-J4 I found these:

Which appear to be an exact match.

__________________
We are alone in the universe, or, we are not. Either way it's incredible... Adapted from R. Buckminster Fuller/Arthur C. Clarke
Register to Reply Score 1 for Good Answer
Guru

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: by the beach in Florida
Posts: 33172
Good Answers: 1804
#16
In reply to #13

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/11/2024 2:27 PM

Well it just doesn't get any better than that....job done!

__________________
All living things seek to control their own destiny....this is the purpose of life
Register to Reply
Commentator

Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 75
Good Answers: 4
#7

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/09/2024 4:39 AM

Hi Randall, KAN-A seems to be some kind of specification and HODA is a chinese manufacturers name (seems lots of companies are called hoda in china ) !
You could try these guys out to see if they have a replacement available.
http://anovay.com they have lots of KAN-A switches listed on their products page.

Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hemel Hempstead, UK
Posts: 5786
Good Answers: 314
#9
In reply to #7

Re: Why do Some Power Switches Appear to Have Two Current Ratings?

11/09/2024 8:58 AM

Thanks,

Couldn't find anything on their site, so, I have emailed their sales team.

__________________
We are alone in the universe, or, we are not. Either way it's incredible... Adapted from R. Buckminster Fuller/Arthur C. Clarke
Register to Reply
Register to Reply 17 comments
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.

Comments rated to be "almost" Good Answers:

Check out these comments that don't yet have enough votes to be "official" good answers and, if you agree with them, rate them!
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

HiTekRedNek (1); Just an Engineer (1); Randall (5); redfred (1); Rixter (1); rwilliams (1); SolarEagle (6); The Wizard (1)

Previous in Forum: Gas Valve   Next in Forum: URANUS flatulence-is there a comedian in the audience?

Advertisement