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Full Wave Rectification of Microwave Oven Transformer

04/02/2025 6:53 AM

Hi All,

I have been building Tesla Coils for many years. I have typically used NSTs and PDTs as the power supply. Recently I built a dual MOT power supply, which worked well, however, I want to change that to a dc supply. My question is can I full wave rectify a single MOT transformer for powering a small classic spark gap Tesla Coil.

There is a simple circuit on the internet, but it is only half wave rectified, which I think is wasteful.

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Re: Full Wave Rectification of Microwave Oven Transformer

04/02/2025 9:10 AM

To power a small, classic spark gap Tesla coil with a single MOT (Neon Sign) transformer using a full-wave rectifier, you'll need to rectify the AC output of the MOT to DC, then use that DC to charge a capacitor bank, which will then be discharged through the Tesla coil's primary circuit to create the high-frequency oscillations. Here's a breakdown of the process: 1. MOT Transformer and Rectification:

  • MOT Transformer: Use a MOT transformer (Neon Sign Transformer) for the high voltage AC output.
  • Full-Wave Rectification: Connect the MOT's secondary output to a full-wave rectifier circuit using diodes to convert the AC voltage to DC.
  • Grounding: Be mindful of grounding, as one end of the MOT secondary is often connected to the core, which is typically grounded. You may need to use a voltage doubler or other techniques to ensure proper grounding and avoid issues.

2. Capacitor Bank:

  • Charge the Capacitors: The rectified DC voltage from the MOT is used to charge a capacitor bank (a group of capacitors connected in parallel).
  • Capacitor Selection: Use capacitors with a high voltage rating and adequate capacitance for your Tesla coil's primary circuit.
  • Spark Gap: The capacitor bank will then discharge through the spark gap and primary coil to produce the high-frequency oscillations.

3. Tesla Coil Primary Circuit:

  • Primary Coil: Wind a primary coil (a few turns of thick copper wire) on a suitable core (e.g., PVC pipe).
  • Spark Gap: Include a spark gap (two metal plates separated by a small gap) in the primary circuit.
  • Oscillations: As the capacitor discharges, the spark gap will arc, inducing oscillations in the primary coil, which then generates the high-frequency oscillations in the secondary coil.

4. Tesla Coil Secondary Circuit:

  • Secondary Coil: Wind a secondary coil (many turns of thin copper wire) on top of the primary coil.
  • Resonant Frequency: The primary and secondary coils are designed to resonate at a specific frequency, determined by their physical characteristics.
  • Output: The high-frequency oscillations in the secondary coil will produce the characteristic sparks and electromagnetic fields.

Important Safety Notes:

  • High Voltage: Tesla coils operate with high voltages, which can be extremely dangerous.
  • Safety Precautions: Always take appropriate safety precautions when working with high voltage equipment.
  • Experience: If you are not experienced with high voltage circuits, it is recommended that you seek guidance from someone who is.
  • Grounding: Ensure proper grounding of all components to prevent electrical shock.
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Re: Full Wave Rectification of Microwave Oven Transformer

04/02/2025 9:27 AM

I have a much better project for you. How would you like to see a new kind of light? How would you like to manufacture one photon at a time?

You will need a friend who is a couple of miles away with a shortwave/ham receiver…… and a 10.1 MHz vertical antenna. You will also need a function generator.

Build and trim the 10.1 MHz antenna with the generator and a 10.1 MHz AC signal, like a conventional radio link. Use low power and short transmissions. Be able to hear and see this carrier with the short wave RX. Using BFO for RX of dead carrier, and MODulation function on the generator.

After getting this regular radio link set up, set the generator to precision rectification at that same F, 10.1 MHz.

Now, do you see or hear any difference at the receiver? With either dead carrier or MOD carrier?

This is DC transmission. The antenna does not alternate electric poles.

Now set generator for a one shot wave. And inject just one half alternation of that rectified sine. Just 180 degrees.

For every 180 in…….. you get one photon out. Evert half sine gives you one discreet photon. Try it. with a number series of one shots. An antenna is like a spring and it snaps every 180. The field collapses…… but it does not collapse in….. it collapses out into space.

These function generators are really neat and only cost about one hundred bucks. On amazon or eBay.

The frequency of light or radio is a duty cycle, not a sine wave. And it is an inverted duty cycle, because the reference is not zero, it’s ½ period of on time. The length of the emitted chunks.

Light and radio is a series of chunks, Blinks, Not a wave. Intermittent.

It’s chunky discreet duty cycle, NOT a wave. And it makes matter vibrate. Space does not vibrate.

Light emission has a constant length and a constant V, and the only thing that changes with motion…… is the time and length between the emissions. The OFF time of the blink. The ON time of the blink is constant.

Only one half of light shifts. The off half.

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Re: Full Wave Rectification of Microwave Oven Transformer

04/02/2025 7:28 PM

Oil Ignition Transformer

When I was young and crazy, I made a Jacob's Ladder with an oil ignition transformer and a couple of straightened-out metal coat hangers, bent so they were close together at the bottom and spread out towards the top.

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Re: Full Wave Rectification of Microwave Oven Transformer

04/27/2025 1:09 PM

Here is a link to half wave, full wave, and full wave bridge that explains each one with symbols and wave forms of each.

https://youtu.be/Dm2eQit0kzE

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